Advanced startup options (including safe mode)

June 21st, 2013

 

The Advanced Boot Options menu lets you start Windows in advanced troubleshooting modes. You can access the menu by turning on your computer and pressing the F8 key before Windows starts.

Some options, such as safe mode, start Windows in a limited state, where only the bare essentials are started. If a problem does not reappear when you start in safe mode, you can eliminate the default settings and basic device drivers as possible causes. Other options start Windows with advanced features intended for use by system administrators and IT professionals. For more information, go to the Microsoft website for IT professionals.

      Repair your computer    

Shows a list of system recovery tools you can use to repair startup problems, run diagnostics, or restore your system. This option is available only if the tools are installed on your computer’s hard disk. If you have a Windows installation disc, the system recovery tools are located on the installation disc. For more information, see Startup Repair: frequently asked questions.

      Safe mode    

Starts Windows with a minimal set of drivers and services. For more information, see What is safe mode?

      Safe mode with networking    

Starts Windows in safe mode and includes the network drivers and services needed to access the Internet or other computers on your network.

      Safe mode with command prompt    

Starts Windows in safe mode with a command prompt window instead of the usual Windows interface. This option is intended for IT professionals and administrators.

      Enable boot logging    

Creates a file, ntbtlog.txt, that lists all the drivers that are installed during startup and that might be useful for advanced troubleshooting.

      Enable low resolution video (640 × 480)    

Starts Windows using your current video driver and using low resolution and refresh rate settings. You can use this mode to reset your display settings. For more information, see Change screen resolution and Correct monitor flicker (refresh rate).

      Last Known Good Configuration (advanced)    

Starts Windows with the last registry and driver configuration that worked successfully. For more information, see Using Last Known Good Configuration.

      Directory services restore mode    

Starts Windows domain controller running Active Directory so that the directory service can be restored. This option is intended for IT professionals and administrators.

      Debugging mode    

Starts Windows in an advanced troubleshooting mode intended for IT professionals and system administrators.

      Disable automatic restart on system failure    

Prevents Windows from automatically restarting if an error causes Windows to fail. Choose this option only if Windows is stuck in a loop where Windows fails, attempts to restart, and fails again repeatedly.

      Disable Driver Signature Enforcement    

Allows drivers containing improper signatures to be installed.

      Start Windows normally    

Starts Windows in its normal mode.

Windows 2000 and XP & Windows 7 and Windows 8 users

Tip: If you are running Safe Mode because you cannot get into Windows, you may want to first try loading the last known good configuration.

To get into the Windows 2000 and XP Safe mode, as the computer is booting press and hold your “F8 Key” which should bring up the “Windows Advanced Options Menu” as shown below. Use your arrow keys to move to “Safe Mode” and press your Enter key.

Note: With some computers, if you press and hold a key as the computer is booting you will get a stuck key message. If this occurs, instead of pressing and holding the “F8 key”, tap the “F8 key” continuously until you get the startup menu.

Trouble Getting into Windows 2000 or Windows XP Safe mode – If after several attempts you are unable to get into Windows 2000 or Windows XP Safe Mode as the computer is booting into Windows, turn off your computer. When the computer is turned on the next time Windows should notice that the computer did not successfully boot and give you the Safe Mode screen.

Windows Advanced Options Menu Please select an option:

Safe Mode Safe Mode with Networking Safe Mode with Command Prompt

Enable Boot Logging Enable VGA mode Last Known Good Configuration (your most recent settings that worked) Directory Services Restore Mode (Windows domain controllers only) Debugging Mode

Start Windows Normally Reboot Return to OS Choices Menu

Use the up and down arrow keys to move the highlight to your choice.

Once you’re done in Safe mode if you want to get back into Normal Windows restart the computer like you normally would and let it boot normally. Click here to get additional information about getting out of Safe mode.

Add names to the Junk Email Filter lists

June 20th, 2013

As part of its filtering criteria, the Microsoft Outlook 2010 Junk Email Filter checks message senders against lists of email addresses and Internet domains designated either as safe or to be blocked. You can customize the filter to block or allow senders or message types.

What do you want to do?


Add trusted names to the Safe Senders or Safe Recipients Lists

By adding email addresses and domain names that you trust to the Safe Senders List, you instruct Outlook that messages from those sources are never to be considered as junk. If you belong to mailing lists or distribution lists, you can add these names to your Safe Recipients List.

To add a person to the Safe Senders List, click a message from the sender. On the Home tab, in the Delete group, click Junk, and then click Never Block Sender.

To add a specific address or domain to the Safe Recipients List, click a message from the sender. On the Home tab, in the Delete group, click Junk, and then click Never Block the Group or Mailing List.

To manually add names or domains to these lists, do the following:

  1. On the Home tab, in the Delete group, click Junk, and then click Junk E-mail Options.
  2. Do one of the following:
    • To add safe senders, on the Safe Senders tab, click Add.
    • To add safe recipients, on the Safe Recipients tab, click Add.

      Add address or domain dialog box
  3. In the Enter an e-mail address or Internet domain name to be added to the list box, enter the name or address that you want to add. For example, you can add :
    • a specific email address, such as someone@example.com
    • an Internet domain, such as @example.com, or example.com.
  4. Click OK and repeat for each entry that you want to add.
    • If you want all Contacts to be considered safe senders, select the Also trust e-mail from my Contacts check box in the Safe Senders tab.
    • Some people whom you correspond to might not be listed in your Contacts. If you want all such people to be considered as safe senders, select the Automatically add people I e-mail to the Safe Senders List check box.
    • If you have existing lists of safe names and addresses, you can move that information into Outlook. Click Import from File and browse for the list file that you want. To create a file that uses your current list, click Export to File and then specify where you want the new file saved.
    • To change a name on either list, click the name that you want to change and then click Edit. To remove a name, click the name that you want and then click Remove.
    • If you are using a Microsoft Exchange Server account, all of the names and email addresses that are in your organization’s address book — also known as the Global Address List — are automatically considered safe.

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Add unwanted names to the Blocked Senders List

Messages from addresses or domain names in the Blocked Senders List are always treated as junk. Outlook moves any detected incoming message from senders in the Blocked Senders List to the Junk E-mail folder, regardless of the content of the message.

 Note    The Outlook Junk Email Filter doesn’t stop junk email from being delivered, but instead diverts suspected spam to the Junk E-mail folder instead of your inbox. You can make the Junk Email Filter more strict by changing its level of protection, or some third-party solutions are available which can be more aggressive.

To add a specific sender to the Blocked Senders List, click a message from the sender. On the Home tab, in the Delete group, click Junk and then click Block Sender.

To add names to the Blocked Senders List:

  1. On the Home tab, in the Delete group, click Junk, and then click Junk E-mail Options.
  2. On the Blocked Senders tab, click Add.

    Add address or domain dialog box
  3. In the Enter an e-mail address or Internet domain name to be added to the list box, enter the name or address that you want to add. For example, you can add :
    • a specific email address, such as someone@example.com
    • an Internet domain, such as @example.com, or example.com.
  4. Click OK and repeat for each entry that you want to add.

 Notes 

  • If you have existing lists of safe names and addresses, you can move that information into Outlook. Click Import from File and browse for the list file that you want. To create a file that uses your current list, click Export to File and then specify where you want the new file saved.
  • To change a name on the list, click the name that you want to change and then click Edit. To remove a name, click the name that you want and then click Remove.
  • If you are using a Microsoft Exchange account, all of the names and email addresses that are in your organization’s address book — also known as the Global Address List — are automatically considered safe and can’t be added to the blocked list.

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Block messages from particular country/region codes

You may find unwanted email messages come from particular countries/regions. Outlook lets you block messages from those areas – the Blocked Top-Level Domains List lets you block messages from email addresses that end in a particular top-level domain or country/region code. For example, selecting the CA [Canada], US [United States], and MX [Mexico] check boxes in the list blocks messages that come from email addresses that end in ca, us or mx. Additional country/region codes appear in the list.

  1. On the Home tab, in the Delete group, click Junk, and then click Junk E-mail Options.
  2. On the International tab, click Blocked Top-Level Domain List.

Blocked Top-Level Domain List dialog box

  1. In the list, select the check box for the country/region code that you want to block, or click Select All.
  2. Click OK in both open dialog boxes..

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Block messages in unfamiliar alphabets

You can block all email addresses in language encodings — also known as character sets, or alphabets — that you specify. Today, most junk email is sent in the US-ASCII encoding. The remainder is sent in various international encodings. By using the Blocked Encodings List, you can filter out unwanted email messages that are displayed in languages that you don’t understand.

  1. On the Home tab, in the Delete group, click the arrow next to Junk, and then click Junk E-mail Options.
  2. On the International tab, click Blocked Encodings List.

Blocked Encodings List dialog box

  1. In the list, click the language encoding that you want to block, or click Select All.
  2. Click OK in both open dialog boxes.

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Add a name to the Blocked Senders List

June 20th, 2013

  1. On the Tools menu, click Options.
  2. On the Preferences tab, under E-mail, click Junk E-mail.
  3. Click the Blocked Senders tab.
  4. Click Add.
  5. In the Enter an e-mail address or Internet domain name to be added to the list box, enter the name or address you want added, and then click OK.
  6. Repeat steps 4 and 5 for each name or address that you want to add.

 Notes 

  • You can quickly add a name to the Blocked Senders List by right-clicking the junk e-mail message, and then, on the shortcut menu, pointing to Junk E-mail and clicking Add Sender to Blocked Senders List on the shortcut menu.
  • If you have existing lists of names and addresses that you want to block, you can import the information into Microsoft Office Outlook 2003 by saving the list as a text (.txt) file with one entry per line, and then importing the list.
  • If you are using a Microsoft Exchange Server e-mail account and working online, you must be using Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 or later. If you do not know what version of Exchange server your e-mail account is using, contact your Exchange administrator.
  • To remove a name from the Blocked Senders List, in the Blocked Senders tab, click the name you want to remove from the list, and then click Remove.

WorldVentures Scam

June 20th, 2013

An honest revealing WorldVentures Review from an insider: Ex WorldVentures Leader

If you have just been given a WorldVentures presentation by an enthusiastic friend and you are wondering whether you should go for it or if you are already a member and after the initial excitement you are left wondering if you made the right decision because you have just found out things that have not been revealed to you in the beginning, read the information contained here as it might possibly save you a lot of time, troubles and hurdles that you don’t need to get into.
My goal here is not to make you hold back from joining or promoting the company, but to give you an honest and ‘behind the doors’ review, so that you might avoid the pain, humiliation, betrayal and loss that I went through, wasting a precious 1.5 year of my life and ruining my previous business, my reputation and some friendships to follow a fake dream that was sold to me wrapped in golden ribbons.
Because you see, WorldVentures is pretty good at one thing: selling a dream. All the marketing, the spectacular videos of the ‘Dreamlife’, the photographs of dream locations with people holding the ‘You should be here’ sign (reps, becoming mascots of the company on social media to sell memberships) the smiling over-confident presenters who seem to be ‘gurus’ of personal development, wealth building and creating a ‘Dreamlife’ – I know because I was one of them – all of these have a goal to make you believe that this is the company that will indeed, easily and effortlessly make all your dreams come true!… and don’t get me wrong, some of those people you meet at the presentations are indeed amazing individuals who just bought into this dream like I did for a while, until I realized that this digging for gold had turned me into a restless unethical lair and an abuser of people’s good will and trust..
So here is how I became Marketing Director in WorldVentures (second level of income, earning around 5000 US per month) and then decided to give it all up, as this company insulted my values, my ethics and my integrity as an individual.
I was lured in after I met one of the top leaders of the company at a independent online marketing event.  He seemed to live the life that most people can only dream of with money and time freedom and loads of vacations around the world as it was revealed to me on his Facebook profile. He talked about his ‘travel club’ making it sound like he a magical travel agency which makes dreams come true and claiming that he made millions in 4 years of starting this ‘Worldventures travel business’.  So I was inclined to find out more….
At the presentation that I attended I got impressed and excited  – I was at a strange point in my life and what they presented seemed to offer solutions to all my problems (it is designed that way, as I found out later, I had the profile of the ‘ideal prospect’ – vulnerable and looking for something new). I trusted the person who invited me and the people who were there, because they were amazing at giving presentations and convincing that indeed they did live a lifestyle of time and money freedom that we all dream of, so I jumped right in.
I decided that I was going to make it work, I was going to break all the records, get all the bonuses and create my desired residual income very soon. I pioneered in my market presenting this new concept, bringing in hundreds of excited people with me! In 6 months I was already a Director and on the top 0.03% of the income earners of the company (according to the official Income Disclosure Statement) and moving fast to the second level of Marketing Director. It was at that stage that it struck to me that things were not so good at it seemed…. It wasn’t easy, I had given up everything for this company and believed in it with all my soul and after I started earning my first cheque of ‘residual income’ I truly thought I had found freedom! But that is when the problems began, as I started seeing more clearly….
WorldVentures Dreamtrips :  What they say at the presentations about the ‘product’ and what you actually get.

At the well crafted presentations, they tell you that the company is buying ‘in bulk’ and you are getting Dream Vacations at wholesale (ie lower) prices. That’s the first lie. After I enrolled all the elite of people I knew in my market, many close friends, business owners and marketers  (I got really excited and people who trusted me believed in whatever I told them about WorldVentures) we all started finding out, that the vacations offered were not really discounted at all and were not happening so often as promised either.
Out of 50 ‘Dreamtrips’ offered there was the odd 69$ vacation which they sell so strongly at presentations, but that sells out within 2-3 hours of announcing it and they just put it in the Dreamtrips list for the show! We were basically telling people to pay an enrollment fee of 200 US dollars and then another 700 USD per year, to belong in a ‘discount travel club’ which offered no discount at all, proven and documented by our research!

As my team was growing bigger and bigger and I was running from presentation to presentation, from training to training, I started receiving tens of upset phonecalls and e-mails every day from people who had done their research online or by calling the hotels as normal customers and had clear straightforward evidence that the ‘Dreamtrips’ did not offer any discount at all while most of the times, they are priced higher than the prices you can get online if you are expert enough in internet searches!!! I wasn’t able to sleep well at night, my life began to look like a nightmare.
I initially began informing and forwarding the information found to my sponsor which is within the top 20 leaders of the company and the answer I kept getting was that me and the people sending these e-mails had negative mindset and that I should work on my mindset in this business, focus on selling, that they people buy because of me and because they want to start a business, not because of the Dreamtrips and a lot of ‘personal development’ bullshit, no discussions about the Dreamtrips prices, with the only occasional excuse that the company is new and it is still building relationships with the hotels! I started getting frustrated and confused at the same time…. I didn’t get it: When I sell something I want to give true VALUE to people on what they are buying, I believe in ‘under promise and over deliver’ and what was WorldVentures making me do? Amazing presentations where we ‘over promised’ and then severely ‘under delivered’ – not to strangers, but to our friends and family…
At some stage around my 8th month  I was getting so many angry e-mails and phonecalls daily from people I had enrolled or people that my team had enrolled and my leader was acting so totally irresponsible and ignoring me that I decided to start forwarding some e-mails to the support team and the Dreamtrips management team to get some straightforward answers. Remember, the e-mails included EVIDENCE that the Dreamtrips were not discounted at all as promised at the presentations with links to websites or info that people from my team (Dreamtrips customers and reps) had gotten directly from the hotels.
And that was the first huge slap in the face: BLACKMAIL.
I actually got an e-mail from the headquarters that nor me or my team are allowed to call hotels as normal customers to double check prices with those offered on the Dreamtrips and that was a breach of rules and regulations and if I continued my research. They also made it clear that if I send any more e-mails to the very busy Dreamtrips team about the complains I was getting from my team on Dreamtrips prices and evidence with links from websites, I would be TERMINATED. Yes, that would be a reason for TERMINATION!!!! I was in total SHOCK!  By that time I had spend 8 full months promoting the WorldVentures concept passionately I had almost reached Marketing Director level. My residual was increasing, but I wasn’t feeling well. I had just been Blackmailed for getting ‘fired’ because I wanted to be true and ethical to the people I enrolled. I badly wanted to give them the value I promised at the presentations, I wanted to give constructive feedback to the company to improve because I thought they didn’t know what was happening with Dreamtrips prices,  but I was clearly ‘ordered’ to stop giving them ANY feedback on their product! I was in denial, I didn’t know what to do, I had already build a big team that I had a responsibility towards….
Then other things started becoming clear one by one:
1    The Big LIE that ‘You will have your own Business on the side’ – it is so unethical that they sell this ‘own your own side business’ concept at the presentations so strongly, that it makes me want to be sick. Being a WorldVentures rep you are not a Business Owner – you are an employee, maybe a highly paid one if you get to be in the top 0.01% and reach IMD, but an employee who can be kicked out of the door and fired at any time. During my time with WorldVentures and after my initial shock when I was blackmailed with termination because I send them EVIDENCE that 95% of the Dreamtrips were not discounted, I experienced the termination of their top UK Leader and their No1 USA Earner, both of which had build huge teams for the company, teams which of course remained with WorldVentures after the leaders termination (and hence, Worldventures saved their big fat salaries and also kept their teams or whatever was left of them!)
I saw those people working hard to bring into the company thousands of people, train new leaders and support the concept passionately, just to be terminated like normal employees, because of supposedly breaking ‘rules and regulations’, which by the way, is never revealed to the other members openly what the actual ‘breaking of the rules’ by those leaders entailed. You see, the WorldVentures rules and regulations are crafted in such way, that the owners of the company can wake up one day, ‘fire’ you from being a leader’ take all your team, never pay you again and they don’t even have to give you a reason! Its true, read the rules carefully and you will see what I mean. They can just decide that they didn’t like something about your behavior and just like that, poof! You’re gone!
2    ‘We want sheep and mascots’ mentality – WorldVentures does not really want you to have an opinion (hence you are a simple employee like in any other company). What they are looking for and what they are creating in their trainings is opinion-less sheep that the company turns into brainless brainwashed mascots. These mascots are reps who pay for Dreamtrip after Dreamtrip to promote the company by taking photos with the logos and slogans and post it on their profiles (note: if you are already a member, notice that 90% of the people who go to all the Dreamtrips are leaders who go there just to promote the concept and not actual members who pay to use the ‘product’), thus building the WV brand with the illusion that they are actually building their own business (whereas they are just normal employees)
3    The Lie of long term Residual Income while offering a non sustainable product with no value. I have experienced firsthand how the top leaders have to work to maintain their status and trust me, that is not freedom! The top 20 leaders and income earners of the company that I personally met at various trainings and presentations,  are constantly on the road giving presentations and trainings, have barely bought a house and a car, all the vacations you see them posing are at work because this is where they spend time ‘bonding’ with their team (and they actually have to use those travel dollars) and nobody knows what they are really earning, due to the ever collapsing team. You see, as WorldVentures product offers no true savings, most people drop out within 1 to 3 months. On a rare occasion, someone will stick around to pay membership until the 6th month maximum. After that they are long gone and you have to bring in new people. Since there is no actual physical product that people like and re-order, dropout rate in WorldVentures is so high, that you can have 5000 members in one month and 5 months after you have 500 unsatisfied complaining ones  left (I have seen many leaders experience that too, it is common reality in this company).
4    Additional Costs for Trainings/Marketing Tools/Going to Dreamtrips profiting WorldVentures:
Not only you have to pay for Dreamtrips membership for trips which are priced the same or even higher than if you booked the exact same trip online or better through your travel agent who would take care of your flights too and treat you like a good valued customer, but you are bombarded every month with trainings (costing from 99US to 500 US), Marketing Tools that should be offered for free (ie 30 US per month to use a mailing system) and many more additional costs that WorldVentures uses to extract more money out of its reps and members.
Basically WorldVentrures makes a huge additional income on its trainings, although I have to admit, most of them are pretty good and entertaining and there are people who do enjoy paying for those trainings because they get some value in the friendships they make and the shift of mindset in spending a weekend in a room-full of positive minded people who are looking to change their lives. However, what people don’t realize is the cost of producing that training vs the proceeds of the company with the very high participation fees, gives WorldVentures  a pretty good additional profit  for each and every training! (out of which, of course you don’t get any commission, even if you have campaigned your whole team to attend and if you are a leader, you are asked to be one of the trainers for free!).
5    Unethical Training guidelines for approaching prospects
The training on how to invite and ‘close’ leads goes against any ethical business practices. Members are encouraged in the training, not to tell their prospects what the invitation is about and to push them to sign the form giving their visa information right after the presentation, before they have the chance to ask too many questions!
They are basically masters of psychological pressure and brainwash. There are many ethical and proper ways to invite a friend to come see a presentation about something that you are doing without you acting weird and hiding things, putting your friend and yourself in an uncomfortable position. It is also unethical to practice tricky pressure techniques with your friends to get them to sign in to something they have no real clue about what it is (after the first 30 minutes of presentation, where they only present their own version of what they want you to see) and without giving you the time to think about it and ask questions.
6    Presentation style: creating fake enthusiasm and pushing for the sale.
Again, what I am mentioning above. Reps are encouraged at all the trainings to create fake enthusiasm in the room and push for the sale right after the end of the presentation, so that ‘too many questions’ are avoided. This goes against my logic of keeping some standards of ethics.
7       Constant Legal Issues of the company and bad media coverage – WorldVentures is going through legal issues sooner or later, in every country it enters. Have that mind that if in your market there hasn’t been yet negative publicity in the media about Worldventures and about how it has been sued for this or that, or for the fact that it is probably a Pyramid or a Ponzi scheme (I will get into that discussion in a future post),  as there will probably be something soon. Are you ready to handle it? This will mean losing a big portion of your team every time this happens, losing a lot of respect from friends and family, being laughed at and rebuilding everything from scratch every time (most of the time leaders move from State to State or from country to country to sustain growth as markets are crushed and burned out) until the company builds in all the markets it could enter and totally collapses.  I personally prefer to spend my time and effort more constructively on other projects.
After one by one all the above points revealed themselves to me, I felt so ashamed of having dragged in WorldVentures with me, so many amazing people which were also left disappointed and wondering how they didn’t see it coming! I even had my wife sign up, who is the quiet type and shy at giving presentations and she had been so supportive that she had already spend around 1000 US in membership fees from her hard earned salary within a year, although we didn’t really need a second membership as a couple.
I totally lost interest to promote it and realized that the only person I can truly count on is myself and what value I have to give to the society as an entrepreneur. I didn’t want to be that fake mascot of an unethical company anymore….
I am now making money in a different business model, I no longer get angry customer phonecalls, I no longer get insulted for unethical behavior that I wasn’t even responsible for.
Who is WorldVentures good for? 
It wouldn’t be fair not to add a paragraph about the fact that some people do indeed enjoy paying that 1000US/year WorldVentures membership for while, either because they have been lonely before and they found a fun group of people to go travelling with (because Dreamtrips offer no privacy, on the contrary they are group vacations where you interact with other members at parties, excursions etc) or because they enjoy all the ‘personal development’ training and bonding with other members that happens at the trainings. These are the 10% of people who stick with the company for more than a year as reps working hard on building teams and swear  by the value they receive.
And yes, I did attend a couple of very nice Dreamtrips which were memorable experiences and did see some great friendships being formed in WorldVentures that’s why I am keeping this blog anonymous, as many of those people who are still in WorldVentures and enjoying it,  are my friends and I truly respect them as individuals. I wouldn’t go to them and try to change their mind by giving them the information that I wrote here, because it is my story,  it is up to form their own experience with the company.
If WorldVentures makes some people happy and fullfills their life purpose, I am not the one to tell them that they are wrong, it was just the wrong project for me for all the reasons described. For them, it might be their true life purpose to promote this company or it might be a journey they have to go through, to learn and grow like I did.
Or like me, some of these people have spend so much effort and time to build big teams, they have put so much trust and time in WorldVentrues, that they would hate to admit ‘defeat’ and admit to anyone (especially to friends and family who made fun of them in the beginning) that WorldVentures isn’t really what they thought it was when they started, they are now too deep in and dependent on it, to make any decision to quit if they decide like me, that they don’t feel comfortable with the product not delivering what it initially promised or if they find that they disagree with certain policies and procedures.
For me quitting and going on to start ventures which were true to me, was liberating, because I realized that with WorldVentures I wasn’t giving the value I was promising to people. For others, quitting might show defeat to all their friends and family, so they do what they gotta do to prove what they have to prove to whoever they want to prove it…
So Is WorldVentures a scam?
This is for you to judge after reading this article and doing your own research. I am long gone for all the reasons I described and I pray for my friends who are still in this company promoting the concept, not to find themselves one day in the streets with no team and no money, having to rebuild their life after WorldVentures would have broken their dreams.

510 comments:

  1. Had a very similar experience with World Ventures.  Joined extremely excited, built up a solid team, and continued to be disappointed with the product offerings, and watched the company lose focus chasing down discount retail products (essentially a happenings book) and cash back mall (same thing offered by nearly any credit card).  If they focused on their niche and delivered on the trips, by truly offering value it would have been great, but it was so frustrating having people in my downline express the same frustrations you stated, and not be able to disprove them, and not hear anything productive from my upline (who was also on the PAC).  Good article

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  2. I have friends who joined and they are now no longer in WorldVentures. They wanted me to join but I refused as I know all about the founders of WorldVenturs and their activities in the past. I’ve lost friends over WorldVentures after I told them it was a fools folly.
    Excellent article that should be read by anyone who thinks that WorldVentures is going to solve their economic problems. If anything, it will make them worse.

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  3. Recently I had a very bad experience at a WorldVentures presentation in Athens, Greece. An old friend called after many years and we happily went to see him at a bar. But, instead of a re-union with our friend, as we thought that his invitation was about, we found ourselves in a WorldVentures presentation! I got so angry!
    Very good article!

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  4. Thank you for posting this. My husband and I went to a “Travel Party” last night and gave our credit card information for them to sign us up after we had a chance to sleep on it. All the tactics they used make sense now that we look back on it. This is not a road I want to go down…

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  5. I’ve experienced nothing but GREAT THINGS with this company! The positive people that I’ve built relationships with through WV has been awesome!
    It’s not for everybody!

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  6. Stay excited while it lasts.

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  7. your still in denial…or just one of those people who have no conscious, guilt, worries, or cares about the people you screw over….your outlook on life is you only care about one person and that is you and if they are stupid enough to fall for it…then it’s not your fault…just my 2cents

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  8. I have met some great positive people in this company too and I know what you mean by the relationships you build because I feel the same way about the friendships. However, for me it was a matter of ethics and sticking to my values which are totally different than the those of the leaders of this company. Yes, its not for everybody…. Wish you best of luck with the company in the future.

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  9. What ventures did you move on to and are there any that you recommend?

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  10. Since I would like to keep my identity private, I will not be answering with specific info about myself in questions…however, what I would recommend to you, is to think what you are really passionate about and how you can provide value to the world, not depending on the products of a company that constantly fails the expectations of you and your customers, but on your own knowledge, skills and power… I believe you will find the answers.

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  11. I joined when the company started. Made it to Director pretty quick. Right when I was getting close to the next level, they changed the comp plan and a bunch of my people quit. It was a struggle from then on. Just when things would start to turn around, they’d change the playing field again.
    They tell you that everyone starts out equal and that everyone has a shot at the top. The funny thing is, I don’t see a lot of people getting to the top of the heap in this company. The top ten earners have been in the top spots from day one.
    The thing is no matter what the say. This is NOT YOUR BUSINESS! You can work your butt off and they can change the rules or take it away when ever the feel like it.
    Like you, I am an entrepreneur and have started a business that belongs to me. You are right. It is very liberating.
    Good luck to all.

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  12. Bullshit! The top income earner, joined in when there where about 100.000 members. Just for your information.

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  13. I have a friend who recently signed up for World Ventures. She claims she met a person associated with this company through a friend who is making big bucks with this company. Essentially, he got my friend to sign up and she is so excited. I totally feel for her because there should be excitement if you believe in the pitch, but I don’t think she researched the company first. Now is she trying to get everyone to sign up. I’ve always been skeptical about companies like this and I personally know I do not have the time or marketing skill to be successful. What would be the biggest question or fact you would tell/ask a recruiter about the company that would maybe wake the person up to reality? I essentially know if I give her a fact she would hit me with something random even if she isn’t sure about the company or product.
    Thanks for your time!

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  14. just tell 2 read this blog and do her research…simple

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  15. The main reason why one would join a company to sell its products, IS BECAUSE OF ITS PRODUCTS. ~duh
    It’s not about building a network or meeting people or learning new things in life. All these other things can be gained WITHOUT joining the company (unless you have a sad social life). If you want to SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE, SKILL AND POWER, run your own company. Be a mentor or teacher. Be PAID FOR DOING THOSE THINGS rather than from the commission of holiday packages. The only reason you would join this company (or any MLM company) is because of it’s compensation plan – aka MONEY.
    You won’t be joining if you are only interested in developing yourself. If this is the reason why you joined an MLM company, then you are a pussy in the real world (pussies won’t understand this paragraph).
    Being an entrepreneur myself, it is the most satisfying / fulfilling decision I’ve made in life. Watching the fruits of your own labour / sweat & tears. What’s best about it? You can leave it behind for the next generation to take over – your son / grandson (unless you’re some effed-up dad). Watching your son / grandson grow and develop as an individual with calibre.
    – Peace

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  16. Thank you for sharing your inside truths MLM blogger.

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  17. Regarding the question on how to talk to your excited friend who just joined WorldVentures, my advice is to mainly let her realize herself – maybe show her this article and tell her your opinion only if you want to give concrete facts and research – but if she is so excited she will find many reasons to keep being with the company and give you the excuses.
    I was like that in the beginning and it took me many months to realize what was really going on and realize it was not for me. At the trainings they focus a lot on showing you how to handle rejections and they give people all the reactions their friends will have and how to answer when a friend reacts negatively. They are really good at this.
    So my guess is that nobody will be able to change her mind unless she changes it herself with her own experience and her own realizations.
    I believe that there are people out there who are made for Network Marketing and they will keep doing it no matter what (like one of those leaders she describes who makes ‘big bucks’) – if this company closes, they will just take their team and move to a new one and on and on. I’ve seen that happen many times.
    I have met the top 10 earners of the company and spend time with them and I guarantee you that most of what they say about how much ‘residual income’ they earn is BS. If they don’t build and build and build their team bringing new members constantly and training people, they know that soon enough their team will collapse. But the point is that this is what they love doing in life, it makes them happy, so who I’m I to judge them.

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  18. How do I get my money back, or quit paying per month?

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  19. I feel after reading our comments, I knew what I was feeling was right on! I am not the kind of person who enjoys this kind of thing. Pressuring people and such. That night when I went to bed I felt ill at ease all night and wanted to cancel what I signed up for. My coworker who invited me was insistent that I get into it and try it for a while. I reluctantly agreed. After inviting several people, and not getting anybody to sign up, it just didn’t seem right. Needless to say my 3 day opt out period is up and I want out. How do I go about getting my money back, or at least quit the monthly dues? PLEASE HELP! THANK YOU! Ali D

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  20. To quit you have to log into your back office and find the telephone number for Cancellations to call the company and cancel. They will ask you to send an e-mail from the e-mail address that you enrolled and you will stop paying the monthly fees. You can’t get a refund after the first 3 days.

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  21. The contract says until 14 days from the registration you can get your money back. I got my money back after 10 days so 3 days is wrong or you are one of the them.

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  22. The rules could be different in each country, according to local regulations for customer protection or they might have changed them since the time that I was a member, which I do not know of because I don’t deal with the company anymore. When I was a member, in the US it was 3 working days

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  23. If from Singapore, how many days? Just joined yesterday and I want to quit now. I emailed eteamworldventures.com is it still possible to get my money back?

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  24. Im from Singapore too, I manage to get back my full payment of USD 360.91 after 24 days of signing. I filled up in the back office under request for refund and indicate the reason why I am requesting to cancel my membership. After reading the policies and procedures I indicated what have not mention/discuss with me when I sign up. They must provide us the latest copy of policies and procedures before signing up, Second its indicated there that need to maintain 1 new sales every month (which they only inform me that I only need to get my 6 recruits and good to go). Third is if you’ve been inactive within 6 mos they will cancel your membership. And lastly, you only have 5 days to get fully refund your payment, which was not also discuss. I also inform them that I already requested a dispute with my bank to cancel this transaction.
    Immediately I got a response that they will refund my full payment and no need to file a dispute.
    The funny this is, I also email eteamworldventures.com with the same content and they reply that theres no refund according to their policies and guidelines I only have 14 days to request for refund. So I reply her that, have you not read my email that I didnt receive any policies and guidelines and she didnt reply anymore.
    As of this writing, my friend that I manage to recruit also requested to refund his membership 16 days after signing. And they reply as well that they will refund within 3-5 business days.
    Please read the policies and guidelines before signing up in this company.

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  25. Hi,    As one of the bloggers of these article , the policies and procedures differ from country to country. Initially , they were three days , which of course was never mentioned when signing up. Nor was the policies as procedures. REGARDLESS, WV has been making every effort to mantain a good score with the BBB. In addition I presonally have gotten money back for people who were mebers for periods of over six months. The matter to do so sadly is to be persistent and harass WV as much as possible. WV WILL make vast attempts to deter you fro doing so , but if the monet is important , do what it taken, in particular stating that you will file suite. I suspect that for every 100 people who sign up and nver use the product , nearly 80 percent loose their money. It is not their fault , but WV policy to screw as many people possible. Even worse than that ,there is no loss for WV since realistically there is no product, or nicely stated a virtual product. Imagine, they fot your money , why return it. I have been receiving a lot of emails from Singapore and for the life of me I can not understand why anyone would join a company which 90 percent of it’s travel product will require the average couple to spend at least $2000 in airfare (all this to save 245 dollars on a hotel stay) Any questions, Email me at worldventuresripoff@gmail .com or Pierre Chenxu at wealth007@gmail.com who is a resident of Singapore who will assist you locally.

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  26. You are a snake.  Too bad you have to approve each post.  Your life will suffer from your manipulation.

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  27. This discussion is open to everyone, except people who are swearing and calling names or posting hate messages with no meaning (like the person above), or posting names of people who used to be in the company with false information and insulting them.
    Feel free to write here whatever you want to support WorldVentures. I was in your situation a couple of years ago. I was going on forums and passionately supporting WorldVentures with my comments…I was very naive and now I laugh with myself for falling into that trap.
    This review is just my own personal experience of WorldVentures and I repeat once more, that indeed WorldVentures is a good company for certain people. In the same way,some people are really good at Network Marketing in general, so they will be good at WorldVentures too, independent of the quality of its products. There are people who make money in WorldVentures (especially the ones who joined at the beginning) my concern is HOW they make their money and WHAT THEY REALLY SELL.

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  28. So you are stating that you can make money (as you were) and can continue to do so, so long as you don’t mind the “ethical implications” as well as not crossing the higher ups?

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  29. Yes, you can make money, not the way the present it to you at the presentations with a lot of fluff, but in a much harder way which takes up a lot of dedication to the company and belief in the product to do so and non stop work because of the high drop out rate (which misses the whole point of the Make a Living Living as they present it, but anyway).
    As long as you don’t mind as you say crossing the ‘ethical implications’ and also acting like an employee of the company being very careful with the higher ups, following THEIR rules and as long as you accept that there will be a fast dropout rate and that to sustain your income, you will need to keep bringing in new members constantly, sure you can make some extra income. But don’t quit your day job yet!

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  30. WOW! As I read through all of this I am a bit confused. I have owned my own business and it did take long hours a lot of commitment and there were no guarantees.  I invested 100,000 and 6 months later the state changed a law that put me out of business. So what I hear you saying is you do not think things should ever change and that once you build a group you should keep getting paid even if you do not continue to work. As an employee years ago I know that would not have worked out that well and as a business small business owner I could not even think of taking a vacation for 3 1/2 years when I started my first company.  Here I do not claim to be a top income earner (and the top 10 have changed) but I make a comfortable living and I do get to travel more than most of my friends.

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  31. Beautiful and I agree with you Mr or Ms. Anonymous. On the other hand we have this blog written by MLM Blogger who is very ethical in every possible way it sounds like. If we find ourselves in a negative “victim” like state of mind we will see different colors. I am sorry, but I feel that the victim would consider themselves a mascot or whatever for the company. I don’t see it that way. When I saw the presentation I did notice the price difference. I have traveled the world before joining Worldventures. This blog was started by a person who could not handle all of the complaints from their downline and had to go to the top and ask and ask and ask about the discounts. Even showing documentation blah blah blah. Money is just money…it’s a number, paper. I don’t understand the unethical part? I wonder if MLM Blogger has worked for the Hotel industry? Mr. MLM blogger do you know who makes the beds and washes the sheets and towels, cooks your food, etc, etc. If you felt like you couldn’t handle everyone’s complaints and quit because your “trip” was not discounted you should have thought about the people who served you while you vacation. Worldventures is driving business to other businesses, especially since the world experience a decline in traveling during September 11, 2001 times! On some of the trips you will get good deals on others you might not, but who cares!!! I am the person that tips big when I go to restaurants and not because I have all this money to throw but because I appreciate the service and realize that the people who are serving me are doing things I could be doing myself!! I can make the bed I can get my own water cook my own food. But we go to these places because other people enjoy doing their job or need to do it in order to feed their families. I am sorry that Mr. MLM Blogger and the rest of the whining band couldn’t get the discounts!!  This is much bigger than that. Again, everyone’s interpretations are different. If you feel like you are being pressured have your posture and say now. if you feel like saying yes, then say yes. A lot of people have a victim mentality. If you don’t like it then get out and find something new! And if Mr. MLM blogger is so ethical then you wouldn’t be talking bad about anything really.

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  32. Mr. MLM you basically wrote your experience and yet you say “it’s not to discourage people not to join, but here is the HORRIBLE THING that poor little me went through” If that’s the case then join the prostester group and ask the FED Chief Investigator where have 9,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars went. This is one of the very few companies that I have seen driving business to businesses that need it! Those businesses have employees too and you and your band are sitting there worried about the discounts? Go and be a server or a flight attendant during the down time I am sure you will find something else to complain about. Life is beautiful and short enough to be self-righteous and fail to see the beauty of things. It is not fake excitement that you experienced, we laugh at the same jokes with the people that laugh at the same jokes for the first time!! I am not attacking, but I might sound like I am. I went into this company fully knowing that the discount is not that big, but it’s enough to keep a positive vibe rolling! Which company creates voluntourism trips? The friends I invite are also fully aware of the journey. This is why it is important to be a good leader! I love this company’s culture, thinking about everyone!! not just the ones that join in for the discounts. This is bigger than that!! Positive individuals don’t create victims out of people. The bigger and generous person looks past the discounts part and focuses on the important part. The money that the company makes is given back to the people that are working so hard to make the company work. It is as such just like any other business. Let’s see, personal development, discounts, personal development, discounts….I choose personal development. The discounts will come and go, could be high or low or disappear due to Worldventures not being able to control the deal they made with a specific hotel or airline or cruise line as each business changes policies or coupons, etc, etc as they see fit. I choose valuable friendships with like-minded people over the “discount” goodness gracious. Think! This world is so materialistic…discount discount discount…where is my discount…I am going to go do research because who cares about the others who serve me…where is my discount?

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  33. Jessica Costales, unethical is a company who convinces people at presentations that their strong selling point is the discounted trips, but doesn’t offer discounted trips 90% of the time.
    Unethical is a company that misrepresents information at presentations and through their marketing, to lure in ‘reps’ that will give up whatever they are doing in their life to work for this company believing that they are actually in control of their own life! (While they are just employees paid on commission that can be fired at any minute or loose their job when the company collapses).
    I have no issue with the people who enjoy WorldVentures, I have noticed that the company attracts people who are desperate and in need of a savior, or in need to ‘belong’ somewhere and make new friends and WorldVentures presents itself as the solution to all their problems and a way to socialize with other people and take training’s on personal development (out of which the company makes a good extra income from its reps).
    I am here to tell people the truth the way I have experienced it and it by a totally unethical company who misuses people’s trust. It is up to anyone who reads this blog to decide for themselves and create their own opinions and experiences. I offer this information to the world to protect the ones who really care about doing business with honesty, ethics and integrity.
    The rest of you, enjoy WorldVentures while it lasts, it is historically proven that no travel MLM has been able to stay around for many years for many reasons that you will find out in due time.

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  34. I am not sure if my message got through or not. I am sorry that you are feeling this way. But you are not doing anyone a favor by feeling sorry for them or sounding like you are contradicting yourself.  In one paragraph you say “I have no issue with the people who enjoy WorldVentures…”and then on the last paragraph you say “the rest of you, enjoy worldventures while it lasts”? do you realized how hurt you sound? I can’t even get upset because I really don’t understand the way people victimize themselves and when they have been hurt, they must let the whole world know because they are feeling sorry for themselves and as they feel sorry for themselves they feel sorry for others as well. You can’t live life in fear or inhibiting people of their right to choose and create their own opinion by making an idea for themselves. Whether good or bad. We are born to this world to make choices and live life to its fullest. I am telling you this as a human being. I prefer to see more positive comments than negative. For examples, “if you are thinking about doing this then DON’T even think about it because I KNOW IT ALL” I would hope anyone would agree with that. I am sorry, but I wouldn’t be the type of person that just because I had been abused in the past I would go around the world telling women that men for the most part are predators. Let people choose, let people live, and let God be the judge. Let it go! If you don’t want to do WV then don’t and let others decide for themselves. You are not honoring anyone by making them victims feeling it is your duty to let the world know. If you want to change this, then you go out and create a better company than Worldventures. It’s all fair! I really do send prayers to you as for me I will always let God be the judge for if I did ever filed a lawsuit to anybody I would be doing it for revenge an would be putting my heart in a prison…I choose not to do that sort of thing, but to only forgive and love.

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  35. Jessica Costales is OBLIVIOUS to reality. In her reply two posts above, she admits that there may be less “discount” on “dreamtrips” than the company advertises…yet she doesn’t care, she chooses “valuable friendships” with “like minded people” over a silly, stupid, non-existent discount.  She is basically saying that you should buy a Sams Club membership, yet expect no savings, just go tell everyone else to sign up for the membership. Bogus, bogus, bogus. Imagine if Amway offered a product that EVERYONE could get for free elsewhere.  A pyramid scheme offers no product, just sells others on the idea. Worldventures  offers basically nothing of real value, yet “sells” it to anyone who will listen. Bottom line, Hotwire, Kayak, Orbitz are free, and offer better deals most of the time.

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  36. I agree with Jessica. World Ventures has been amazing for my family, friends and I.  I am 25 and I enrolled less than 6 months ago I am currently earning a residual income. My mother is earning a residual income and I just received my BMW through World Ventures Wings and Wheels incentive. MLM is definitely NOT for everyone however if you are wise and you take advantage of the money that you can make; you will receive that financial freedom and security that is mentioned in the presentation. I have a few members on my team who are NOT business partners (only members) and the DreamTrips Life cash back option alone saves them ALOT of money. The statement that you made regarding the same top income earners that is not true because I have witness 3 new income earners that are earning high residuals (IMD) with being in the company for only a year or two.
    Let’s be fair in providing reviews. IF YOU WERE a top income earner than I am sure you made profit some weeks when you contributed little to nothing AND that is a blessing so instead of not appreciating them you should thank god. It pays when your working and it pays at times when your team is working. You DO NOT have to wait for any promotions. You can simply work and GET PAID as EB says plus there are times when your pay out weighs your work. For me it’s just work and promote myself to the next level. If your someone helping your team become just as successful as you are things will work out fine. I have met three people from social networks who were not in my warm market and they came into WV and did amazing in there first 60 days. So I believe in World Ventures I have seen the fruits of it’s labor. I am sorry your experience did not work out for you.

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  37. World Ventures Hacks: YOU ARE SELLING AIR!!  There is very nearly NOTHING that you offer that cannot be gotten elsewhere for NO MEMBERSHIP FEES!! I was a member for about 48 hours and I did my research via Kayak, Hotwire, Orbitz.  There are NO SAVINGS WHATSOEVER for most “Dreamtrips”. The ONLY savings you offer are on the low-balled trips and cruises that are only offered once a month.  And good luck getting on those, because they sell out in a matter of minutes. Oh and by the way, you don’t know exact dates or locations until after you book the trip.
    As for the above hacks’ bragging about “currently earning a residual income”…Hey don’t blow all that $50-500/month all in one place.  You should be very proud about selling all your friends and family on the non-existent savings of this ridiculous “travel club”. You are either uninformed or willfully ignorant.  Imagine if Sams Club offered very little or no savings, but told all their members they could be independently wealthy by signing up enough others for the non-existent “savings club”.  That is World Ventures in a nutshell.
    And congrats on the BMW “from World Ventures”. LOL!  So now you bought a car you can’t afford, and they pay you an extra $600/month as long as you keep ripping off enough other people with phoney promises of a glorious non-existent “discount travel club”. You should save every dime you make, because you will need it when they tow your car the month after the $600/month stops coming.
    I’m sure you work very hard and are passionate about what you do, it’s unfortunate your passion is invested in such a bad idea, that will cost many honest, hardworking people more than just the thousands they’ve invested in the “Dream”, but will leave them broke, disillusioned, and brokenhearted in the end.
    C.W.S. 31 yo Salesman extraordinaire 200K/year Cash enough to buy an M5, but that’s a waste (or for fleased posers) Chevy driver World traveler, thanks Hotwire

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  38. My God! In what world does ms jessica live. WV is about Discount Travelling, That is the product. Yet there is no Discount or so called great deals! Unethical is that, that the presentation is all a marketing blah blah and later when it comes to promises noone delivers. I agree with this blog completely. I am not brainwashed lamb to belive in this BS that WV sells

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  39. duhhhh, that’s what “ms” Jessica is taught to say/sell….not wanting to be mean, but just pointing out the obvious….”MS” not “MRS”….she’s an up tight, attention starved, trying to be all that, acting like she is better than everyone else, total _____ ….fill in the blank, that no one can stand to be around, and only looks out for her own interests type of person….hence…the “MS” part!!!! Seriously how can she sleep at night!!! Oh yah… her out look on life is “As long as I’m happy…living the good life…who cares who I screw over as long as I get what I want” Sorry Hun but all the money in the world will still never buy your happiness!!!!

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  40. There is no confusion.  The way opportunity is presented for new people at the presentations misleads people. They tell you you will build your team for some time maybe 1 or 2 or 3 years and then you can retire because this team grows on its own. This is not true, but people buy into it easily

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  41. Thank you writing your article, I found it informative as well as matter of fact.           I personally know of people involved in WV that have gone thru their entire saving/retirement accts yet continue to “believe.”  Family members have tried to help them see the truth with no luck. It saddens them greatly. Not only can WV destroy friendships and ones credibility but marriages as well I’ve read. Recently WV have gone to a price guarantee on their dreamtrips I heard (if you find a lower price w/in a week of booking).  I am amazed at how many highly educated people get involved with this type of organization.  Their new tag line is “we’re not for everyone” making one believe they are the chosen ones that “get it.”  For many it’s a social network, which personally I think is great..no different then a club for those with a common bond.  But any company that has one go to so many training, presentations etc to remind you of how amazing they are and how you made the right decision to be part of them, is called brainwashing in my opinion.  I have worked for companies that are always patting themselves on the back of their greatest and have always felt, if you’re really all that, I’d know it by working here..you wouldn’t have to have a meeting every few days to tell so.  That has never been the case w/a company that runs their business that way and people left these companies rather quickly and word got around.  Maybe I just don’t have a need to be a “part of something” as I’ve been in management for years, attended my share of company conferences, and having ethics and character above all else..in some cases in my career those values have hurt me professional, but never personally and I have maintained friendships for years due to having those qualities.  Nothing would ever convince me to do otherwise.

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  42. Everyone has their choices…even most people using an iPhone now… there are still people who does not want to be associated with a MAC… haha!!!

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  43. Thank you MLM Blogger for clearing everything up for me I am just sadden my friend is already in with his step mom and really do believe, but have been convinced that this will really work eh I just wish the company can go down somehow, but there are way too many people in it already.
    Thanks again

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  44. Yeah, typical MLM, they seem everywhere…

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  45. Thank you for sharing.

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  46. interesting article.  thanks for sharing an open opinion.  sad for those who don’t see it as that and are defensive.  it’s good to get all the options.  i just had coffee with a ‘friend’ who showed me the presentation on her iphone while she went to the loo… i was like ‘theres got to be a scam’ and she said there wasn’t, so i’m doing my own research because i’m an adult and i can make my own choices in life.  i must say i am a little disappointed in my friend that she invited me for a coffee, i thought to catch up but in the end was to try and get me to sign up and i guess get her commission????  i’m ‘out’.

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  47. Don’t be so hard on your friend, I was like that for a while until I realized what was really going on…I really believed in the company and she probably does too. WorldVentures is really good at marketing and making people believe that what they do is ‘THE DEAL’, especially people who are vulnerable and looking for a new opportunity. I didn’t have bad intentions when I was approaching my friends in the beginning and showing presentations, I actually thought I was giving them something really good! So I don’t think your friend has any intention to scam you, she just sees things differently at the moment.

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  48. That is what they want you to do.  They want you to call and say “I only have a few minutes to talk, so let’s get together, I have something I want to show you.”  It is very misleading and dishonest.  You shouldn’t have to lie to someone to show them what you are selling.  Especially to your friends and family.  And this information is straight from the first training video (which is over an hour by the way) that they have you watch.  I agree with MLM, you can make money, you can travel, you can make friends.  But only if you know alot of people, are willing to sacrafice alot of time and are willing to lie to your friends, family and others to make a buck!

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  49. Precisely. My long time friend one day out of the blue invited me out to “catchup”. After arriving, he asked me to go for this talk. Having known this friend for a really long time, I suspected he must have been taught/brainwashed by the company to lie and make sure we do not have time to do any research into the company before we attend the talks.
    Truly immoral and unethical.

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  50. Like with any company, there is good and bad. Unfortunately, human beings look more for what wrong/negative with something than what’s right. Perhaps they are not looking in the right place? When they point a finger at another person/company/ product, people tend to forgot that three fingers are pointing back at them 🙂
    In order to make something work, PEOPLE have to become better. If you want to see change in the world, you make the change in yourself first….
    My husband and I have been with this company for almost 7 months and just reached a level of residual income. We have had nothing but GOOD experiences from the people we have been associated with and the products we have used.
    Sorry to hear the author did not have good experiences with this company or support system. I am thankful and very blessed to have a team who supports me as much as I support them.
    This has been a personal development change for me and I could not be happier.
    Life is meant to be Happy ~
    Anything in life comes down to believing in yourself.

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  51. I have no issue with the people who are happy with WorldVentures, I hope they continue to be happy with the company long term because I know the amount of effort you put on building teams.
    There is a general culture that the company develops among its devoted reps, that they are the only ones who ‘can see the light’, they are the ‘chosen’ ones who can see clearly and all the rest of the people ‘miss the bus’ or are ‘quitters’ and ‘quitters never win’ etc etc.
    Have you ever wondered if the only reason you are seeing only the positive side of this company is because maybe you have been brainwashed into this and you are only seeing your side of the story,the side that you want to believe in? My brain was blocking a lot of ‘red flags’ for a long time, because it didn’t suit me and my interests.
    What is the real value that this company offers the people who pay the yearly membership for the Dreamtrips? What is the real value you are giving to the world with this product? If you feel you are giving true value in an ethical way, then great, you have found a way to contribute to the world.
    Unfortunately, after some realizations that I describe in this blog post, I didn’t feel anymore that I was offering value to the world in an ethical way, so I my conscience did not let me continue.
    Personally the only value I feel that the company offers, is the well crafted trainings where you get to have fun with nice people and get some personal development training on how to sell and handle objections, which does make you stronger as a person, because Network Marketing is all about self-confidence and handling negativity without letting it affect you.
    But I find no value however in the actual product and have clearly seen bad ethics and pretension in the highest levels of this company.

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  52. Someone please tell me why do I have to pay them to sell their product?

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  53. thanks for the info, my generation called it amway

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  54. Honestly? Really? Why would you go to the trouble to put this whole blog together, however not have the decency to put your name to it? And then say that you are doing it because you still have friends in the company! Please. If you have an opinion on something and you want to put it in the public domain, be willing to put your name to it, otherwise it ain’t worth squat.
    How are we to know that you were actually in the company? Evidence?
    People, this is network marketing. This isn’t a job. And it isn’t for people who are not looking to step beyond the 9 to 5 employee mindset.
    Me? I’d prefer to work my ass off and reap the profits myself, as opposed to lining the wallets of the fat cats in corporate America (or elsewhere).
    I’d prefer to spend my days being able to see my children grow up, instead of working in a job that I probably don’t like. Lazy? No. As I said, I work my ass off. I’d just prefer to choose when I do it.
    And in case anyone is wondering, you have to work your ass off, if you want to see any level of success, in any walk of life. In any business. That’s why most people choose to remain employee’s, because they aren’t willing to fight for their success…for their freedom.
    I suggest you read Robert Kiyosaki’s ‘Rich Dad Poor Dad’ if you want to get your head around the benefits of NOT being an employee.
    Am I in Worldventures? You betchya. Twice. In that, I left once because the timing wasn’t right for me, however I came back. Why? Because I became a student of the network marketing industry, as well as the online marketing industry in the interim. I discovered that for me, and that’s the key here, for me, there’s nothing that comes close.
    I would encourage everyone who enters network marketing to not ‘just’ attach themselves to a particular company. Moreover, develop yourself as an entreprenuer, and establish multiple streams of income, utilising the incredible tools the we have at our disposal in the information age. Because as the author so clearly pointed out, it is NOT your own business, and it can be taken away from you at any point.
    Instead, develop ‘YOU inc.’ Develop your own brand, based around your own passions and what you believe. Check out Gary Vaynerchuk’s book ‘Crush it’ for more on this.
    This is what I do. I consider myself an entrepreneur first, a WorldVentures ‘rep’ second.
    Bottom line is, I believe life’s to short not to give it your best shot, and have an amazing time while doing it. Worldventures enables someone to have fun travelling, while making money along the way. IF, and only if, you are serious about it.
    Final word, we’re talking less than four hundred bucks here folks. We’re not talking thousands. Sure, the training can be a little expensive when you’re just getting going, however any successful entrepreneur will tell you…you have to be willing to pay for good quality training.
    I’m willing to put my name (and website) behind what I say, because I believe it’s the only ethical thing to do.
    Please only visit my site if you are serious about succeeding in online/network marketing, and/or potentially in WorldVentures.
    I hope I didn’t upset anyone too much, particularly the author, as there’s a good chance that our paths might have crossed at some point!
    Please remember, there’s always another side to every story, and someone’s point of view is exactly that…their point of view.
    Lee

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  55. Lee, the anonymity is for many reasons, not only my friends who are still in WorldVentures, but first and foremost I have other business activities now and I do not want anyone who goggles my name to know the ordeal I have been through with this company. Like you mention in the article, its good to have your own personal brand and I definitely do not want my ‘brand’ to be connected in any way with WorldVentures anymore.
    Anyone who has been in WorldVentures will recognize that this article is written by someone with hands on experience with the company. It was a very painful experience and as a very unsatisfied consumer I have every right to share it anonymously with others on the internet. I might protect some people from getting over excited about this company and giving everything else up in their life to become mascots of WorldVentures, only to fall flat in their face. They can give up their job after they have been making a good income to support themselves without a job and have been for over 2 years with WorldVentures. Still there is no guarantee the company will be around to pay them in the next 2 years.
    I agree with other things you wrote, I am a big fan of Kiyosaki and all the rest of the books of this genre, but network marketing is just one of the many ways that you can have a good lifestyle and residual income. Like I wrote, I do believe that some people are really good in Network Marketing, but this is not for me.
    I also haven’t seen any leaders in WorldVentures who are actually in other Network Marketing companies at the same time, spreading their risk as you say. Some of them who tried got terminated. So I kind of doubt that you are making a good income in WorldVentures, if you did, you would stand out, they would check your website and other activites and would find out if you are promoting other companies and at that point they would terminate you for cross promotion.
    The few people I know personally who are making a good income out of WorldVentures (somewhere in the area of 4000 USD per month and above), they are doing it full time, working their ass off and focusing only on this company branding themselves as WorldVentures leaders.
    Some of the top guys have books and trainings that they sell to their teams to make extra income (although this is essentially forbidden by the company too, but they find a way around it) and I find it very intelligent and wise of them to do that, building their own brand as authors and as speakers and trainers.
    I see so many people quitting their jobs and their stable income, before they have had any concrete success in WorldVentures and then loosing everything…I wouldn’t advice anyone to do that and I find it unethical of leaders in this company letting people believe that they will quit their job, focus on WV fulltime and they will all be Directors, NMD’s, IMD’s etc.
    Anyway, I respect your opinion and wish you all the best with what you are doing!

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  56. Great information Lee. I agree.

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  57. I don’t know what to think… my brother in law just signed up… he showed me his web site and i looked at the prices for different cruises, they looked really cheap.  But i was in on of the bigger MLM companys (Quixtar, AKA Amway) and know i hate hounding everyone i know and meet to join my company.  But if i know people who like to travel and this company can be competative in prices….

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  58. Are you the guy the company fired last September for unethical practices?

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  59. I have seen many unethical people in WorldVentures, but I am not one of them, you don’t seem to have read my article carefully. Sorry to disappoint you, but I wasn’t ‘fired’ from WorldVentures,  I quit on my own after painfully seeing the truth about what is really going on with that company

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  60. BTW what did this unethical guy do? Would you like to share?

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  61. Just read every comment and every paragraph to the article. I will be cancelling my membership as soon as they open. You only have 3 days from when you start the membership to cancel and get a refund so be smart and simply do the right thing. Get your money back people

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  62. Wow! A lot of great info here. Love seeing each point of view. I have been approached by a friend in exactly the manner in which you have described. (Long time friend reaches out to me after many years and asks me to do lunch. There was a hug and a very brief “how do you do” and out came the laptop). I even made it to a presentation and again as you stated, before I could say a word a pen and sign up sheet were handed to me. Anyway, she has done a great job at making it sound credible however I never do anything before doing extensive research. This is how I was led to your blog. I agree with the fact that NO success comes without hard work and dedication so nothing more needs to be focused on that. My biggest question here is the product. I’m still looking for price comparisons. I can live with the $360 fee and the potentially waved fee for additional members for it seems like a small price to pay for cheep vacations. Is it realistic to think that you could take advantage of WV without the anticipation of getting rich or is the “product” not worth taking advantage of?

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  63. Stagg, regarding the product, for any person who is good at doing research for vacations especially online, you can definitely always find same prices or cheaper than WorldVentures for 99 out of 100 Dreamtrips(Except the occasional $69 cruise, that they offer 2-3 times a year and sells out the same day).
    The travel club is good only for people who enjoy group vacations at specific resorts with specific pre-planned group activities.
    If you enjoy planning your vacations at a time that suits you best and a destination of your choice, at dates of your choice and having a certain amount of privacy during your vacation, this is not for you.
    If you are looking to join a travel club to make new friends, you might enjoy the Dreamtrips, not for their cost, but for the people you will meet and hang out with and maybe some of the group activities like parties,  although mind you, even on the Dreamtrips most people are so focused on meeting with their team, doing mini training and strategy sessions on expanding the team,   I don’t find it such a relaxing environment to vacation.

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  64. You have provided a great perspective and you’ve nailed down  the very questions and concerns that I’ve had. I needed that so thank you. You’ve described it almost perfectly to how I picture it. I appreciate a great deal that you would take the time to respond.

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  65. After reading your “blog” all I can see is a disgruntled employee.  All of your information is half on.  I have taken a couple DreamTrips and each time before I booked I price shopped.  Each and every time the WV DreamTrip price was much cheaper.  Now they actually guarantee the best price for DreamTrips & also fights & hotels.
    I have been a member for a year now, never once paid a monthly fee and got my initial fee back plus.  So I am out ZERO dollars and have save a ton of money on our vacations.
    Ethical issues?  If you have a problem with an old friend or former co-worker calling you up for coffee wanting to catch up and share something with you and they show you how to travel better and for less money why would any intelligent person have a problem with that.
    The fact that you want to remain anonymous, you either were fired or you are a coward.  If you are so opposed to World Ventures and what they represent why not at least give your first name.  My money is on you being the issue and not World Ventures.  Hiding behind your brand, is crap.  You don’t want people to know the truth about you.  You also prefer to slander others behind their back. Very big of you!
    For those of you who are making your decision based on one blog, not even an article with fact checkers, but one man’s opinion, that is really sad.  There are thousands upon thousands of happy World Ventures members.  Don’t take one disgruntled persons opinion and make it your own.  Find out for yourself. Get yourself on a DreamTrip and form your own opinion. There are hundreds of trips to choose from, over 600 in 2011, also a monthly $69 cruise.  There are to be more trips in 2012.
    Going forward if Google is how you choose to do your “research”, you may want to remember any person can post a blog. Consider going to the experts, Ernst & Young, Inc 5000 or even Success Magazine.  They have amazing things to say about World Ventures.  I would take their option of some “anonymous” blogger any day & twice on Sunday
    I am sure this won’t get approved by the blogger since it is full of more facts than his post.  Should this get posted am definitely not afraid of others knowing my identity.  Am I a part of World Ventures you betcha!!
    Misty VanArkel World Ventures Member & Rep since Feb 2010 Hodomanic & Proud
    Forming my own opinions based of facts and experience not someone else’s opinion!!

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  66. Misty its great that you have a good experience with WV, and I am perfectly fine with people who enjoy this company and the Dreamtrips, in fact I was like you in the first few months….but my findings were much different than yours. When I left the company, the rules and regulations stated clearly that the company DOES NOT guarantee that the Dreamtrips are the lowest price you can find and I had hundreds of trips that me and my team researched as a proof. I didn’t decide to quit overnight, it took months of thinking, researching and waiting for the company to provide what they had promised.
    I do not want to go through again why I am not posting my name, because I explained in the article and other comments above and i am starting to repeat myself because people don’t read carefully. But the fact is, I had a bad experience with WV and as an unsatisfied customer and rep, I feel I need to share it with others. I choose to do it anonymously mainly because I have other business activities now and I do not want my name online to be related with WorldVentures if somebody does a search on me and my business.
    I wish I had done even the slightest online research before I had joined.
    Regarding the price guarantee they are giving now, I heard and if they have decided to do that, good for them and especially all the people who trusted this company.
    Trust me, this blog and the big team and expansion they lost because of me leaving the company, might have been one of the main reasons they went ahead with that price guarantee, I know they are reading this… Because certain leaders lost A LOT from me getting frustrated with the situations and the ethics and giving them up to move on to better things.
    Hopefully, they learned something, but I am long gone and much better where I am now and very satisfied with my life and what I do for living.
    Again I am happy you are satisfied with WorldVentures and wish you all the best for the future.

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  67. If you can provide more info about that new ‘price guarantee’ that they are providing, feel free to share the exact details from the rules and regulations, it would be interesting to know. From my personal experience with the company and the multiple talks I had with the head offices, I am feeling that it is not as it sounds, there must be a loophole somewhere in that ‘price guarantee’ statement.

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  68. I have read through this entire listing of posts, and because I am still considering joining World Ventures, I’d like to comment.
    First, I really appreciate “MLM Blogger”s tone, approach to business, and ethical considerations. I found myself agreeing with much of what he pointed out and a few others expressed. A family member invited me over to “share” something with me. At first, I thought, “Great, haven’t seen her in a while and so glad she’s reaching out.” About 15 minutes later, I told my husband I had a suspician that it was some MLM thing…it was.
    At the presentation, I was introduced to her, “…good friend and mentor…” I’ve been around the block a few times, and I get turned off by the lingo in these organizations. I have a very bubbly personality, enjoy meeting people, and frequently share my knowledge and skills with others just because I enjoy it. This mentor chatted me up commenting on this and proceeded to size up my potential as a seller.
    I am the worlds worst salesperson, but if I believe in something, I share it shamelessly. I think that is what these people are doing. I think I have my eyes wide open in general, and I am inherently suspicious. However, I always give others the benefit of the doubt where motive is concerned.
    Watching the video presentation, I found myself agreeing with many of the comparisons used. My husband and I have considered a timeshare. I have been comparing that option with the World Venture’s option, and I think WV comes out on top in that match. However, those aren’t the only 2 available options for vacation taking and traveling. Here are some thoughts I have been batting around…
    I believe there are people who really will not take time to travel or vacation unless some type of gentle coercion is provided. Signing up for something like this might actually encourage people to finally take some vacation time. After all, why waste the investment. This is actually the reason I am still considering joining.
    On the other hand, I saw through the hype (even though I admit to a general feeling of expediency) of the presentation. THAT is what has kept me from signing on the dotted line. I have friends and family who travel frequently anyway, and I thought how I would like to offer them this opportunity. I just can’t get beyond the negative feelings I associate with the general mindset of this type of situation (namely, MLM).
    Misty, unfortunately, your post actually solidified that. While MLM Blogger’s every post and reply has been respectful almost to the point of self-efacing…yours was confrontational and negative. I think WV might have a pretty good idea, and I have read over much positive press for the company. I am making my decision based on my research…NOT…under duress at a presentation filled with hype and every type of psychological pressure mentioned by MLM Blogger.
    I may yet become a WV rep, but I would like to graciously suggest that Misty might want to present a more positive front. If WV is everything she thinks as far as ethics and opportunity, this blog will not hurt the company. Also, if other supposedly happy reps regularly post these kinds of rabid responses to people voicing their personal opinion, the public may start to suspect that a defensive stance is merited…and then wonder why.
    Thanks for this opportunity to peruse opinions and express my own.

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  69. This is for all the Israeli members and members worldwide regarding the information normally withheld to those who join Worldventures. This brief report will explain to you what the real interpretation of “making a living” means. To the best of my knowledge “making a living” means that one earns an income enough so, that it would cover his monthly expenses, food , home car  and health. The current average salary in my country of Israel is about 2000 USD a month which most people  would consider enough to get by. So making an “average” living by these standards would amount ”to make a living”. This amount is below that of the USA which is where Worldventures originated and is based in Plano, Texas. Just in case you are impatient because you received a 27 second phone call from a “close friend” who you haven’t spoken in ten years who wants to “catch up and has to meet you in person but doesn’t have enough time to even tell you what it’s about because he’s in a hurry” –(if possible at 8pm – where this friend forgets to tell you are actually attending a travel party along with 200 others…….. Now that you’ve arrived at the meeting; Were you buy any chance told that you are going to get a BMW M-5 and the home of your dreams just by reaching a certain result…WOW that sound great. (If you reach this status you will be among the less than 46 people in the world amongst over 100,000 reps who have achieved this status. So, ok you are not expecting the BMW M-5 or that free home but just want to “make a living”. Ok- So let’s get the numbers straight- Let’s do an analysis regarding the members and see who are actually “making a living”. There are currently about 2700 reps in Israel. The minimum salary in Israel is about 1000 USD a month or 12000 USD a year, while the median income is 2000 USD a month. Remember there are about 2700 reps in Israel. At best OVER 2000 of these people are paying members of just 60 dollars a month or at least 720 USD a year. Wait, are these people “making a living”. I sure hope they have another job. These people are paying WV 720 dollars a year. HMM….. I thought we were “making a living” as reps with this company. OK, so 2000 people are not only making a dime but PAYING the company. That money that they are paying, 720 USD could go to a nice vacation. HMMM. Let’s not all forget that we are not reps of the company but independent rep, so that the company has no liability in case any of us performing independent illegal activities or we intentionally misinform ,lie or threaten one of it’s members. The company does not cover you for anything, and can arbitrarily take ones income at any time or date as they see fit. As for the writer of this blog who chose to leave many other including myself had their account arbitrarily closed by WV. So for those of you who amongst the few people actually making money, the company has the discretion to take this away or shut you down without notice. Yes even Mr. Little.

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  70. All this should be no surprise as each and every individual was “given” and acknowledged the 25 page contract he signed when they became a rep. Wait, what contract! I didn’t sign any contract. Of course you didn’t. Your independent rep agreed to the contract on your behalf when you registered. Of course the company can’t be responsible for an independent reps non-disclosure of an actual contract. HMM. I wonder why they never showed me the contract which in any court would be deemed unconscionable. But wait I went to a momentum (of which I had to pay for) where AN EMPLOYEE or even the CEO or the CVO (right they have a visionary officer) of the company who told me all this misleading information that was given to me. HMM-. Yes I will record that info and use it in court. Better make it to Dallas Texas (conveniently located near WV offices) and 5900 miles or many mile away from the majority of WV members to take legal action. But I would hold out using all that recorded information in court as the contract clearly states that officers of the company are liable for signed documents and nothing they say. Shucks. Wow, so they can teach me how to deceive other individuals and then not be liable at all because I am an independent rep. What if I get sued from? WV will provide you with an attorney which will kindly tell you that you are on your own.

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  71. part 3 Last year at the Cyprus convention a rep that had  reached Director status, stated in front of hundreds of people  that he signed up to the company under false information. You should have seen the expressions on all the employees of WV biting their nail (yet clapping their hands congratulating the member praying that no one had paid attention). And moments earlier Mr. Mark Accetta told us that we have permission to record this. If you wish to see these recording I will be more than happy to forward them. Hey Wayne, Mike, Kyle, Mark you’re all present on the video. Wow so the company allows its successful members to perform under false pretense and in countries WV has no license. HMM.    But wait …we can’t use the money (720 USD membership)for a vacation,  that is the money money we pay to “make a living”(and for the right to sell WV. Now if you recall, there are about 2700 members in Israel  of which 2000 are paying so they certainly aren’t earning a living. Now we have the remaining 700 reps…  now someone has  got to be making money…right? Well some news for 675 out of 700  them who a least aren’t paying membership … you are  saving 720 USD, however,  are spending an average between time and personal expenses (are we reimbursed for that?) that equals to a minimum of 400 USD a month, between gasoline, phone calls, food, and your own time. So wait, I’m am spending about 400 USD running around (my time is worth money and gas, food) to make an average of 684 USD A YEAR. So of the 675 people who are not PAYING for membership, lets’ do the numbers Annual earning -Monthly outlay= income (“make a living”). But wait I spent about 5000 dollars over the year and earned an average of 684 USD .  684-5000= -4314. I’m out over 4000 Dollars. But wait the top earners among these 675 members who earn $5074 a year people are spending about 5000 USD a year to work at this goal of “earning a living”. Remember, none of these 675 people have earned more than 5000 USD (?????). Let’s do some math here once again with all the time and personal financial layout you are making along with the other 2675 reps, the top earner are making 5000 dollars a year. But let’s not forget that they are laying out about 5000 dollars a year. If my math is correct 5000 USD ( the best annual income for a rep)-5000 US (personal expenses)= 0. Wait does that mean 99.01 percent of all people at WORLDVENTURES are netting annually (a whole year)  0 (ZERO). YES. Does netting 0 constitute “earning a living”. In case you are wondering of what about those other people who are “making a living” 13 out of the remaining 25 earn an average of $4802 dollars a year. And if they are spending 400 USD a month overhead they are just about breaking it even. Looks  like that means you have a great chance a making it. In other words 2687 out of 2700 are at best breaking even. The reality is that these 2687 members are paying for the lavish lifestyles of a few people and Worldventures personel. Have you ever noticed the income disclosure statement. Read it: http://www.worldventures.info/pdfs/incomedisclosure.pdf YES THAT IS THE PAPER WHICH WAS FLASHED AT YOU FOR ABOUT 1 SECOND AT THE MEETING YOUR FRIEND INVITED YOU TO.while they show you the BMW and house for about 10 seconds- and of course the contract which you were never shown at all. You PAY CASH to recruit people, and make it back from the cash of your recruits. Logically, someone has to lose money for you to get paid.

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  72. However, as they do offer actual vacations and travel services, so there is not a crime. One could argue that your money also paid for your access to their exclusive vacation deals, (which are on specific dates in which you pay huge penalties for canceling and never include airfare.) The packages which I was told about included  a 33 dollar for a 5 day cruise, which I have never gone on because the ones I saw somehow cost 733 dollars for the same period. Nevertheless, the presentation will normally show you only “loss leader” trips which are used to lure you into the company.(how convenient) The problem with most trips they offer is and pay attention they are always for a SPECIFIC HOTEL ON SPECIFIC DATES. The company promises you that their trip to that specific hotel on those dates are the cheapest. But think about this when you look for a trip; what’s REALLY important? Well for me the following: Do the dates of the package deal suite your needs; maybe the date don’t apply? Is the location is right? Is it the price really a good deal . So say they offer a trip to Miami  3 days and 2 night to for $200  4 star hotel)on a specific dates, say February 22-24 (but I live in Seattle and the flight alone is $600 dollars extra-and there is even a special for $700 that includes a 5 star hotel 3 day/2 nights to Miami -tough!).  All they are guaranteeing you is that for those three days, with the specific room at the specific hotel at their price cannot be beaten. Does that mean the hotel next door which may be nicer and has a better deal. Quite possible, yet that makes no difference to WV. The only guarantee that you are getting are for the trip dates. So even if you can go to the WV hotel from February 25-28 for say $179 it make NO DIFFERECENCE. A common term used if you were to raise that issue to a WV representative is that “IT APPLES AND ORANGES”. Just for the sport WV had a trip that was 300USD PER PERSON on specific date. It was a nice hotel with half board. I went online and found a nicer hotel right next door (that flexibility in terms of dates and was quoted at 400 USD or 100 USD more than the WV trip. When I mentioned that to a WV member their response was “you see ..100 dollars less”. Of course when WV stated the discount you are saving it shown in the form of two people so in this case it would be 200 USD less than my hotel and 200 less than the best online price for their hotel.   Then I go to the punch line and said MY PRICE was PER COUPLE. So my hotel which is nicer and has flexibility with the date cost 400 USD while the Worldventures dreamtrip was 600 USD. The rep not knowing what to reply stated “that my comparison is apples and oranges”. Of course in the presentation the Reps, forget to tell people that flights aren’t included and the cancelation fees apply and of course that the trip they are showing are the few loss leaders.

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  73. And realistically, if you can sucker in enough of your friends, you actually can profit. So long as the there is a lower rung on the ladder to pay for your mistake.
    They don’t lie to you. They just hide the truth in pretty words and motivational hotel “pep rallies.” Most of the attendees are still buying into it themselves, so they come across as very sincere and enthused. but if you notice, none of them are really making money. Hmm.
    Don’t be fooled, most of these people are faking smiles to make their money back, even hoping your money will recoup their losses. My advice- don’t get up in arms, this thing is huge and there’s nothing you can do. Just look out for yourself and your loved ones. http://www.worldventures.info/pdfs/incomedisclosure.pdf I was surprised that a company that highly valued its people could put out a CD and allowed their own customers to be called “SUCKERS”. I’ve decided to expand my research a found that there are currently 260,000 people  in Plano Texas , where Worldventures  is located. That amounts  to about 100,000 families or household. If we were to put the entire city into Worldventures  plan , how many families would be “make a living” i.e. at least $21,000 a year? Here are the numbers: Over  99000 families= would be earning nothing or losing money. 580 families= would be earning about  $4800 dollars a year. 320 families = would be earning about 21,000 a year . (Sorry no car allowance or health benefits.) 100 families – would earn on  $59,000+ dollars a year (of those only 47 get the car not free of course just reimbursed)at 16 get the home. You’d better be amongst those100 families or you’re in trouble.

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  74. To the author of the last 5 comments on this post, you clearly sound like a person who’s been there, done that (for quite a while), seen the truth clearly in the eyes and left puzzled with how you have fallen into this whole thing without realizing anything in the beginning.
    You are clearly an intelligent person (I see so many people who are in the company a looooong time not making a dime and they just don’t get it!)  and that’s why you could figure things out in detail like you explain here. It took me a few months to figure all these things out, but once I did, I was disgusted.
    The only people who can realize the truth contained in the above comments, are people who have been for a while in the company, have had the experience and have done their research very deeply and have come up with the logical conclusions which are described above.
    I agree with everything you write ‘Anonymous’, it could very well have been an additional blog post written by me, because all the things I that I realized and went through myself.
    Thank you for taking the time to write down this information. Like you, I was startled finding out these things step by step while I was spending almost all my time promoting the company and being in financial loss, because as you clearly mentioned, being a Director means you have to spend at least 400 US per month promoting the company (coffees, gas, time, attending trainings you pay for etc) – I can even say at some months I spend a lot more if I am to count my time properly according to the average salary, since I had given up almost everything else I was doing to get to Marketing Director fast.
    The average director residual is around 700 to 800 US (unless you have a fast growing team and you make extra money from the Cycles, but that doesn’t happen every month), so I was netting around 400 to 1000 USD per month and I was considered one of the few top leaders who were ‘making a living, living’, was admired by others and presented this ‘lifestyle concept’ as a success story at the presentations!
    Pretty soon it didn’t make sense!
    With regards to the well crafted rules and regulations of the company, again I agree with everything you write, everything is designed in a way to protect the company from everything and leave the Rep exposed to everything.
    Maybe we are on the other side of the world from each other, but our experience with the company and the conclusion is EXACTLY the same!
    I hope you have moved on to much better things by now. Thank you again for sharing this information!

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  75. BTW it would be interesting to post that video from the Cyprus convention that you are describing, you can just upload it on YouTube (you can create a new anonymous account on YouTube for this if you prefer anonymity, WorldVentures reps will probably think that its a promotion of the company anyway) and post a link here, would be both interesting and fun to see what it was all about!

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  76. Hi,   You are welcome to email me at neotyehuda@yahoo.com. Please do so as I would like to get to know you. I am an intelligent person but it hurts me to see how many of my friends remain in a brainwash status and buy into this. But, seriously, it is hard for me to blame them. I say so because I recall when I first started I was coming up with creative ways and sucseeding at this while only doing this part time, but I felt that what I was doing to my friends is exactly what the companys master plan is; getting people into a sudden frenzy to get their friends to sign up. Most reps have no tools on how to do it. The kept asking me to sign up their friend. I was using every marketing tactic out the. My sgnup rate was 75 percent, compared to 20 percent on average. Taking that into consideration the level of success by those who don’t know what to do, my estimates are that those with no experience stand a chance. what is stated. Therefore all the training is worthless from the prospective of the individual and an additional asset for the company. I am trying to put together a class action law suite and have 137 people who joined and feel they were cheated and manipulated. The are many accounts on which to sue the company. I recenlt did anothrer study and came to the following conclusion: the company  is not supplying enough trip so that each member can take one trip a year. This fact alone should  raise eyebrows. I havne’t posted the vidoe as I would use it in court as to show that WV acknowledges it own reps acting againts the law (forget the contract. I case you were wondering I was booted for asking to many questions although the official response of the company was something they made up as they had nothng to pin me on. If you have ever watched the incredible movie Philadelphia with Tom Hanks who was let go bause he had AIDS although the company dismissed this, that is about how I was let go. Doing nothing wrong except for being responsible.

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  77. Cyprus Convention??? 1. There was never a Cyprus Convention 2. Mike Azcue has never stepped foot on Cyprus soil, so immediately I refuse to even read the rest of the info.
    Dogs dont bark at barked cars!! I love this blog, really shows you how much NOISE WORLDVENTUES IS CREATING!!! WATCH THIS SPACE AND MARK MY WORDS, your children will know about WorldVentures and whilst you watch it become a multi-billion dollar giant. Yes yes I know, you think I’m brainwashed and can’t think for myself, like I said, remember my words!
    God Bless!

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  78. To see how brainwashed you are, I googled the Cyprus Convesion, I found a video from Cyprus ‘Millionaire Bootcamp 2010’ on Youtube with Wayne, Kyle and Marc Acceta in the video. I didn’t see Mike Azcue in the video, but I am not sure if the person above was referring to Azcue when he wrote ‘Mike’. Anyway, good luck and I hope WorldVentures doesn’t prove you wrong in the long term. I used to believe that WorldVentures would take over the world too. I was just being silly!

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  79. Thank you for sharing your experience. I’ve just got a presentation by World Venture and is now making a research and ended up on this blog. I’ve earlier experience with the MLM concepts. It’s a shame you spent so much time of your life and cost you so many relationships before you got to the point you made. On the other hand, you write very good and informative and there is useful information for people who are a little more skeptical by nature, as I am. I still felt the feeling of “misuse” my friends and family and have damaged my reputation and do not want to repeat this.
    Our family travels very little because we do not have the opportunity to travel away, but when we do it is often decided at very short notice, less than a week. It is because we run our own business and know what it means to work your ass off. I can not see that it is possible to earn easy money in WV and if I understand right, we will not be able to find very cheap travel at short notice when it suits us. I realize that this is not something for us, even if the dream trips look beautiful.
    You managed to get me to sort the mind. MLM is a good concept for self-development, but it’s not for everyone.
    Good luck in your current job.
    From a norwgian lady

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  80. Signed up Thursday evening, and I would like to get out. Is the 3 day period “business” days?

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  81. I feel awful now after reading this post. Thank you for this. I am dead serious. This is what I needed to figure this entire thing out. Here is my situation.
    I joined in July 2011 and it is now February 23rd. Would you like to know how many people are on my “team”? 1 personal on my left and 5 on my right (all of those spillover).
    I personally enrolled 3 people and of those 3 not a single one of them has sponsored anyone and done anything.
    At one point I had 15 people on my right, again all spillover, and it dropped to 2 and now its 5. Sure I had 15 people, or 5 cycles worth, ready to go on the right side, but I have never had more than 2 people on my left so guess how much money I have made in this company since July 8th 2011?
    $0
    When you take into account my $68 monthly fee I have lost the following…
    $476, but I did make $60 commissions for my 3 sponsored members so I guess I only lost $416.
    I want to throw up now. I cannot believe I couldn’t see this before.
    I am going to show this to my sponsor and see what he says. Its funny that I didn’t see this earlier because here was a guy, my sponsor, who was the absolute MAN at sales etc etc yet he joined 2 weeks before me (end of May 2011) and he is still NOT EVEN AT 30×30!!!! Granted he has way more of an established team than me, but I guess that should have been the first sign that this thing is HARD HARD HARD!
    He told me that its been hard for him to reach 30×30 because there are people on his team that he doesn’t personally know and they quite. So every time he gets close he loses people and drops down.
    It is so true what you say. These guys HAVE to WORK hard at this in order for them to “keep up appearances” of success.
    Unbelievable. I spent around $500 and haven’t made a dime nor been able to even take a DreamTrip with some of my free travel dollars from booking my own travel on my dream site for when I travel for work.
    Here is the secret to making money with WorldVentures. Enroll 2 (one on each side) people who are absolute machines at network marketing and go on to build HUGE teams for themselves, therefore you not having to do ANY work. Good luck finding those since there are only 0.01% of them around.
    I truly respect you for sharing this. The reason I am awakened now is because you are someone that has actually MADE MONEY at this and were not the typical “This thing is a scam” talk you see from reps who never invited or did ANYTHING just like my 3 personals.
    When this is coming from someone that was 90×90 that is EYE OPENING.
    After reevaluating my views of WorldVentures I do feel it is a scam now and here is why.
    You are pressured to basically forget there is a product and just go after people to sing up for both the DreamTrips AND the business and this business is a sham. There is nothing substantial about it. In order to grow your business you tell team members to go out and find other people who want their own “business” etc etc.
    WorldVentures always says its not a pyramid scheme because there is an product or service associated with it. While that looks good on paper if you dig deeper there truly is nothing being offered to you. Yes you do have a product and you can take vacations, but 99% of it is all about finding more people who want their own “business”.
    Much like you I have developed a number of websites and have ventured into another form of residual income, that doesn’t prey on friends/family etc. I am an affiliate and am having some success with Internet Marketing earning commissions on actual PRODUCTS sold. Not making money on people finding people who then find more people etc.
    I am so glad I saw this. Thank you so much!
    James

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  82. Hi,    I published a response but do not see it.

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  83. Hi, your response must be the one in response to ‘Misty’s’ post above? It has been published now. I check this blog once every few days for approval of new comments and posting answers, so there might be a time delay in publishing your comments.

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  84. Hi MLM Blogger,
    Thanks for putting up this article. I had a friend who contacted me over Facebook about WV and it being an MLM.
    Being in an MLM company 2 years ago, I was well aware of the common practices and the blatant disregard of business ethnics. So I did my research and chanced upon your site.
    Wish you all the best in your endeavours. You’re a good soul.
    Amitabha (Well wishes from a buddhist)

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  85. Hi,   BTW FOR ALL THOSENTERESTED ON THE FIVE SECTIONED ARTICLE POSTED FROM February 27 YOU ARE WELCOME TO EMAIL me at  worldventuresripoff@gmail.com My name is Alan. Prior to reading this please read my four part blog above  from February 27 above which will clearly show that everyone but a precious few are on a bad path. From experience over 80 percent of those that left the business opportunity also left the product. The majority of others who do stay on are due to social pressures mainly because it is their close friends or family that have signed them up and are LIKELY TO BE ONE OF THOSE “FOUR” SIGNUPS. I would also like to point out the following: The car and dream bonus are given to people who are a handful that earn a six figure incomes with WV. So the car and home incentive though still of value regardless will make little difference to an individual who earns these sums of money. But who are these individuals? Did they just walk off the street and become successful. A footnote that you may not be aware of is when WV started amongst the people involved were divided into two groups. There were those tagged as employees and those who were given a WV representative “GOLDEN ACCOUNT”. These individuals had the opportunity to work with WV as an employee or be set up to reach an IMD level  (which they all have). These individuals are the ones who lecture you today and wear gold rings, yet many of them never did nearly what others have to do to reach this. Why? Because at its initial stages WV did all the advertising for these individuals allowing them and assuring them to reach NMD (National Marketing Director)and it’s a no brainer to reach IMD thereafter. So despite my article above no matter where you are on tree or pyramid, you are basically stemming from these individuals who in fact are WV employees but EARNING THEIR SALARY AS REPRESENTATIVES. This ALLOWS WV to play on both sides of the map both as a company and as representatives. It also allows them to pay for employees through your money. THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MOMENT; can you request from WV to sign up directly for membership? NO.  These individuals are basically WV employees in disguise yet they tell you that you are not working hard enough. So they are getting paid for the work which the company did FOR them  and then these IMDs are telling you that you need to stay active, keep working at your goal (and paying money for this) , while it’s costing them nothing. The travel dollars plus bonus money to attend SPECIAL meetings for NMD and IMD is all inclusive. So THESE PEOPLE are NOT PAYING for anything. IMDs’ – gets the car, house , travel dollars , business meeting dollars and that’s not all. Wait what else could the people possibly getting . MORE MONEY? MORE MONEY, BUT HOW? Well in case you needed to know IMD’s and NMD’s are being PAID by the company to speak in front of crowds at these meetings in addition to everything. So the fact it that the percentage of “off the block” individuals who succeed are LESS than what eh “income disclosure statement purports.

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  86. continuation: I am an intelligent person but it hurts me to see how many of my friends remain in a brainwash status and buy into this. Well I can’t blame them as I did myself. The term business opportunity is used in such a distorted manner that it leaves me baffled. If the product is so good regardless of business plan then people would be signing up regardless of the product itself. Additionally, even if they did sign for both the business plan and the membership, they would retain their membership despite paying membership. Have you ever seen a presentation which offers you the business presentation prior to the product. If there are so many confident people out there and the company is so confident with it’s product ther should be a money back guarantee? Money back guarantee! With WV you are lucky to get your money back regardless of time frame .
    But, seriously, it is hard for me to blame most of the people who sign up. I would term what is being done is taking advantage of your personal life, social network, values , morals and of course money.  I recall when I first started I was coming up with creative ways and succeeding at this while only doing this part time, but I felt that shortly afterwards what I was doing to my friends is exactly what the company’s master plan is; getting people into a sudden frenzy to get their friends to sign up. Most reps have no tools on how to do it. The kept asking me to sign up their friend AWARE that I was using every marketing tactic out the. My signup rate was 75 percent of people I approached, compared to less than 10 percent on average. Taking that into consideration the level of success by those who don’t know what to do and with no experience stand no chance.  THINK about this for a moment if any opportunity is really that great even if you got the facts partially straight most people would buy into it if there was logic. The are many product you can say this about although ARGUEMENT CAN BE MADE EITHER WAY BUT if your local gas station was offering you 50 cent of every Gallon so long as you pay 5 dollars a month membership fee it would obviously pay for those filling up 20 gallons a month (less than a fill up). Would calling up your friend and telling him about it be so problematic and  telling him about this? NO! Would he sign up? Chances are likely. So why does WV need to operate this way. Because obviously most people would NOT sign up but for this social pressured meeting. Therefore all the training has little effect on the individual and is an additional asset for the company. I am trying to put together a class action law suit and have 137 people who joined and feel they were cheated and manipulated. There  are many accounts on which to sue the company. I recently did another study and came to the following conclusion: the company  is not supplying enough trip/room  so that each member can take apply for  trip a year. This fact alone should0  raise eyebrows. In case you were wondering I was booted it merely  for asking to many questions although the official response of the company was “something they made up” as they had nothing to pin me on. If you have ever watched the incredible movie Philadelphia with Tom Hanks who was let go because he had AIDS although the company dismissed this as the reason, that is about how I was let go. Doing nothing wrong except for being a responsible  individual.

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  87. Hi,   BTW FOR ALL THOSENTERESTED ON THE FIVE SECTIONED ARTICLE POSTED FROM February 27 YOU ARE WELCOME TO EMAIL me at  worldventuresripoff@gmail.com My name is Alan. Prior to reading this please read my four part blog above  from February 27 above which will clearly show that everyone but a precious few are on a bad path. From experience over 80 percent of those that left the business opportunity also left the product. The majority of others who do stay on are due to social pressures mainly because it is their close friends or family that have signed them up and are LIKELY TO BE ONE OF THOSE “FOUR” SIGNUPS. I would also like to point out the following: The car and dream bonus are given to people who are a handful that earn a six figure incomes with WV. So the car and home incentive though still of value regardless will make little difference to an individual who earns these sums of money. But who are these individuals? Did they just walk off the street and become successful. A footnote that you may not be aware of is when WV started amongst the people involved were divided into two groups. There were those tagged as employees and those who were given a WV representative “GOLDEN ACCOUNT”. These individuals had the opportunity to work with WV as an employee or be set up to reach an IMD level  (which they all have). These individuals are the ones who lecture you today and wear gold rings, yet many of them never did nearly what others have to do to reach this. Why? Because at its initial stages WV did all the advertising for these individuals allowing them and assuring them to reach NMD (National Marketing Director)and it’s a no brainer to reach IMD thereafter. So despite my article above no matter where you are on tree or pyramid, you are basically stemming from these individuals who in fact are WV employees but EARNING THEIR SALARY AS REPRESENTATIVES. This ALLOWS WV to play on both sides of the map both as a company and as representatives. It also allows them to pay for employees through your money. THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MOMENT; can you request from WV to sign up directly for membership? NO.  These individuals are basically WV employees in disguise yet they tell you that you are not working hard enough. So they are getting paid for the work which the company did FOR them  and then these IMDs are telling you that you need to stay active, keep working at your goal (and paying money for this) , while it’s costing them nothing. The travel dollars plus bonus money to attend SPECIAL meetings for NMD and IMD is all inclusive. So THESE PEOPLE are NOT PAYING for anything. IMDs’ – gets the car, house , travel dollars , business meeting dollars and that’s not all. Wait what else could the people possibly getting . MORE MONEY? MORE MONEY, BUT HOW? Well in case you needed to know IMD’s and NMD’s are being PAID by the company to speak in front of crowds at these meetings in addition to everything. So the fact it that the percentage of “off the block” individuals who succeed are LESS than what the “income disclosure statement purports.

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  88. I am an intelligent person but it hurts me to see how many of my friends remain in a brainwash status and buy into this. Well I can’t blame them as I did myself. The term business opportunity is used in such a distorted manner that it leaves me baffled. If the product is so good regardless of business plan then people would be signing up regardless of the product itself. Additionally, even if they did sign for both the business plan and the membership, they would retain their membership despite paying membership. Have you ever seen a presentation which offers you the business presentation prior to the product. If there are so many confident people out there and the company is so confident with it’s product ther should be a money back guarantee? Money back guarantee! With WV you are lucky to get your money back regardless of time frame .
    But, seriously, it is hard for me to blame most of the people who sign up. I would term what is being done is taking advantage of your personal life, social network, values , morals and of course money.  I recall when I first started I was coming up with creative ways and succeeding at this while only doing this part time, but I felt that shortly afterwards what I was doing to my friends is exactly
    what the company’s master plan is; getting people into a sudden frenzy to get their friends to sign up. Most reps have no tools on how to do it. The kept asking me to sign up their friend AWARE that I was using every marketing tactic out the. My signup rate was 75 percent of people I approached, compared to less than 10 percent on average. Taking that into consideration the level of success by those who don’t know what to do and with no experience stand no chance.  THINK about this for a moment if any opportunity is really that great even if you got the facts partially straight most people would buy into it if there was logic. The are many product you can say this about although ARGUEMENT CAN BE MADE EITHER WAY BUT if your local gas station was offering you 50 cent of every Gallon so long as you pay 5 dollars a month membership fee it would obviously pay for those filling up 20 gallons a month (less than a fill up). Would calling up your friend and telling him about it be so problematic and  telling him about this? NO! Would he sign up? Chances are likely. So why does WV need to operate this way. Because obviously most people would NOT sign up but for this social pressured meeting. Therefore all the training has little effect on the individual and is an additional asset for the company.

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  89. I am trying to put together a class action law suit and have 137 people who joined and feel they were cheated and manipulated. There  are many accounts on which to sue the company. I recently did another study and came to the following conclusion: the company  is not supplying enough trip/room  so that each member can take apply for  trip a year. This fact alone should0  raise eyebrows. In case you were wondering I was booted it merely  for asking to many questions although the official response of the company was “something they made up” as they had nothing to pin me on. If you have ever watched the incredible movie Philadelphia with Tom Hanks who was let go because he had AIDS although the company dismissed this as the reason, that is about how I was let go. Doing nothing wrong except for being a responsible  individual. When I mentioned before that these initial people who had the opportunity to either be WV personnel or WV representatives, I left one other tidbit out. WV allowed them and like many people today to sign up an account for just about anyone . So the people who got the “Golden Account” not only signed up themselves but took multiple accounts, albeit not in their name. Why , well think about this “you sign four and pay no more “ ON DAY 1 OF THE COMPANY” but as long as the company is doing all the advertising who’s paying attention as to who your exact up line is . So in essence the people set up multiple forms of income for their families without doing anything. So if John Doe  signs up his father , mother , wife and brother (totaling 4 -2 on right two on left) ….and he signs up all the other recruits (all you need are 16 direct signups for the family) (which the company has done all the advertising for)your initial account will have reached IMD regardless and what stems from those other accounts but income stays “all in the family” , and if John Does father reaches NMD for his “hard work” (i.e no work at all)he will be earning a supplement income traveling free and driving a car at the expense of the the downline. So if you were ever wondering when they tell you “get in early to reserve your spot” it means a whole lot less today than on day ONE

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  90. Now for some of the most humorous lines on WorldVentures . Please watch this video presentation by Martin Ruoff . it’s fascinating ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-fWe500fzc As you watch pay attention to the following; In the Video he states the following: (please don’t laugh) Line 1: “My results are NOT typical” stated at 14:45 of the video –That may be the understatement of the year! This individual is an IMD at the company. That title means absolutely nothing should the company wish to arbitrarily kick you out of Worldventures and keep the money for themselves as they did to Steve Little. In addition Martin Ruoff who claimed to have no money spent over $1100 before doing anything with WV- we’ll let’s see $350 to sign up $33 dollars for that cruise and $150 in port taxes and about $600 dollars in airfare –total 1100dollars. Now his results are not typical and in fact only 0.016 percent reach that level . So for all the Martins  who have  no money this is a great chance to jeopardize the little that you have.  Line 2 : “I joined because of this $33 cruise” – I have Never seen a cruise for 33 dollars and even if there was  one – it was posted as a lost leader and was sold out in minutes .So if the company has the ability  to make these trips (and they are transferring the savings to you as a costumer –Shouldn’t these trips be offered based on demand and virtually available every day. So long as the supply exists. Line3: “Worldventures is not after your money”- (stated at 11:15) NOW YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS ONE TO ME. (correct if I am wrong but does WV have an ulterior motive to take over your brain as well.) Line 4: “We Don’t invite just any member we are pretty selective about our members” (I Wonder if stated my name was Chief Terrorist and stated my address as WTC (World Trade center 1)  would I be accepted. 2:20. Between  2:57-4:00 he states  “pick a trip pack a bag and go” . So I live in LA an d I am going on: 1) that 49 dollar cruise to the Bahamas ( but I need an additional 680*2 people=1360 dollars    for a round trip ticket to Miami – (plus an additional 300$ for cruise taxes )= an affordable 1700+dollars vacation 2)Cape Greco in Cyprus  for $199 -better prepare at least 2700 dollars for that plane fare  so that trip is an affordable3100 =dollars  (now let’s also consider how many people will spend 3100 dollars for a four day vacation.) 3)Prague for $99 dollars per person better get at least 2000 dollars in airfare-so that trip come out at $2200-but don’t forget to pack food for that one-“but I thought  this was a dream trip- YES BUT THIS ONLY INCLUDES BREAKFAST. You can dream about the food you will get.. So at 7 minutes on the dot the presentation of the product  finishes-  Is it worth it, you be the judge!!Notice what I have written above and  judge. On other thing to mention. You’ll notice there is no mention of any contract of any sort. I wonder why?

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  91. Wow! I am sooooo glad I started this blog! There are so many people with similar experiences as me who are taking a stance and taking action!! The way I took action (to protect others from this unethical company) was starting this blog.
    ‘Anonymous’ I totally believe you when you say that you were booted just for asking the right questions and trying to be a responsible individual. They BLACKMAILED to do the same to me and IT FELT SOOO WRONG, that’s why I quit! I couldn’t just shut up and act like a scared employee like my team leader.
    Please post your e-mail and some more information about the lawsuit. On what grounds exactly are you suing the company? In which court? What would it entail for a person like me who would like to testify? What kind of evidence do you need from me? Do your lawyers give you chances for winning this? Please post here for everyone to see. Thank you for this and for taking action!!!

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  92. Regarding the following post from 11 March above:
    ‘A footnote that you may not be aware of is when WV started amongst the people involved were divided into two groups. There were those tagged as employees and those who were given a WV representative “GOLDEN ACCOUNT”. These individuals had the opportunity to work with WV as an employee or be set up to reach an IMD level (which they all have). These individuals are the ones who lecture you today and wear gold rings, yet many of them never did nearly what others have to do to reach this. Why? Because at its initial stages WV did all the advertising for these individuals allowing them and assuring them to reach NMD (National Marketing Director)and it’s a no brainer to reach IMD thereafter.’
    WOW again, this TOTALLY TOTALLY MAKES SENSE NOW!!!! I met all those IMD’s personally, I know how much promotion the company gave them by posting paid advertisements with them on the cover of magazines like ‘Success from home’ since 5 years ago and they all DO behave like employees.
    When I went right to the top of my team and talked to the IMD who’s team I was in (he knew me pretty well and was coaching me personally because I was doing well for the team), I got very weird replies that didn’t make sense and  blackmail from him that the company would not tolerate complains and questions and that they would terminate me if I kept ‘bugging’ them all the time. His advice on how to succeed was  that I should shut up, not ask many questions and focus on selling and that’s how success comes.
    Sorry but I will never be a sheep!
    I answered to him that I didn’t enroll in this company to be either part of a herd of sheep or an employee who is threatened with being fired just for wanting to serve the customers with the service we promised!

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  93. Dear Alan, I found your comments so interesting and similar to my experience, that I thought it was useful to re-post them as a new article: http://isworldventuresascam.blogspot.com/2012/03/legal-lawsuit-for-worldventures-ex.html
    Feel free to send me full articles for posting separately here: bloggerblgs@gmail.com

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  94. Although I am not personally involved with any MLM I have friends that have been with WV. I have been to 2 amazing dreamtrips with my friends at ridiculous prices and everything was as promised.I am amazed though, with the blogger who keeps his identity hidden NOT TO HARM HIS FRIENDS that are still with WV (as he says), but his is ruining their business with such an ease and pleasure.

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  95. In addition to my comment below, let me ask you this: Suppose that you know that in your part of the town there is a factory polluting the environment and causing cancer in adults and children, you work for that factory (as another 300 of your friends do as well) when you come across information that proves that the company is purposely harming people and the environment and concealing important information.
    When you go to the management and try to talk about it, they fire you.
    What do you do? a) You move on with your life and keep quiet and let the company keep harming the health of people living in the area it is based, because 300 of your friends work in that factory and if you bring this issue to public attention the factory will have problems and your friends my loose their job?  or
    b) Start a campaign to bring this issue to the media and the public and force the factory to make the necessary adjustments for the safety of your friends and all the people living in the area it is based?
    It takes courage and guts to be b) right?

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  96. Dear ‘Anonymous’ above, read my article and the comments below carefully, there are many sane reasons to keep my identity anonymous. My friends who are still in WorldVentures know that the internet is full of ‘scam’ pages about worldventures, and they don’t care, they still believe in the company, its their choice. I am not going to tell them everything I know directly because 1) They won’t listen 2) They will probably not want to talk to me again.
    This is the truth about my experience and about many other people’s experiences and I am a free man, allowed to express myself freely to protect my friends and others on the internet fromm going through what I have been through.
    Any sane person who goes into WorldVentures, should know in advance that they will encounter a lot of opposition, its not me causing the opposition, its all the reasons outlined on this blog by me and all the commenters.
    Its great that you enjoyed the Dreamtrips, I did enjoy a couple of Dreamtrips too in the very beginning, but its very strange that you are NOT enrolled as a client if you enjoyed the product so much and if you believe that your friends are actually giving some value to the world.
    AFTER you get enrolled, work hard and reach Director, lets talk again

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  97. My sister worked hard 18 years of her life in the coorporate world and she made millions of euros for her company and she was fired because of the recession.(We live in europe by the way). This sounds like a big scam to me!So hard work is not a quarantee in any other business either. Out of curiosity I googled companies like Amway etc and I found out that all these companies are “scams” as well. I googled Bill Gates and I found out that is the antichrist(!) so I conclude that one person’s reality is not necessarily the truth for others. Thank you for posting my comments and wish you the best in what you are doing now. My opinion is that everyone should have their reality through experience.  Regards from troubled Europe!

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  98. See there is a big difference here on HOW you loose your job – is it because the company is not making as much profits as before and it needs to cut expenses (which is logical for the company to fire people that are surplus otherwise it will go bankrupt) or because even if you are one of the best salesmen of the company making it millions of $$$, you told the company something they didn’t want to hear about their lack of integrity towards their clients?
    See there is a difference in ethics there. WorldVentures just ‘fires’ people because they ask too many questions about what is obvious. I know too many people now who have had similar experiences to me with the company to confirm that my case was not unique.
    WorldVentures fires people when they stop letting themselves be opinion-less sheep and dump cheerleaders who follow the ‘coach’ and don’t ask questions.
    And by the way, how ethical is it that at the presentations they tell you that you are starting a ‘side-business’? You are not, you are simply working for another company as an employee paid with commission, you sign an agreement that covers ONLY the interests of the company,  and you are expected to act as an employee. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!

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  99. Thank you, Thank you , Thank you for making this site!!!!! WV has now reached Norway and we were about to sell this to our friends and family. Infact we were supposed to go to meetings with them tonight and tomorrow. We desided to google WV and found several negative comments about them. After reading your blog we canselled every meeting we vere supposed to have. We feel tricked and fooled by the representative we met, and e see ALL the signs you have described in the representatives here i Norway and the meetings (my husband has been to two of them) I am so glad we found your blog and I just wanted to thank you before we dragged family and friends into this scam.
    A big thank you from Norway 🙂

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  100. You’re are so welcome. The point of this sight was to highlight all the red flags behind Worldventures. It is up to the individual to make that decision, something Worldventures does not allow to happen due to its marketing tactics. Alan Worldventuresripoff@gmail.com

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  101. this is so bullshit.. WV has a guaranty and if you find the tour an other place cheaper you get the whole trip for free.. and in the plane search you 150 % of the differancial back !!! and it works.. you must remember!!! this company is only 6 years old.. it is now the good thigs are begiing to happen!!! I’M LOOKING FORWORD TO SHOWING ME OFF IN MY NEW BMW PAYED BY WV!!!! HAVE FUN 😀 something to think abowt for U in NORWAY: everything you google have an up and an downside.. have you tryed to google kjell inge røkke??? and how mucht money dont he make??? and thats way you stay pooor 😀

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  102. Because I appreciate everyone’s opinion, I approve all comments. I would like to see you driving your BMW and then seeing how you will keep paying that amount per month when WorldVentures stop giving it to you – read the small print of that offer. How long are you in worldventures? Let me guess, 2 months? 6 months? 8 months max?

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  103. P.S. Did the Norwegian guy you mention above make his big money in Network Marketing or WorldVentures, or by running a REAL Business giving REAL value to the world with products that people actually need? Enlighten me please

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  104. Here, I googled him for you, here is the company he is made his big money with: Aker Solutions ASA is a Norwegian oil services company that offers engineering, construction, maintenance, modification and operation services for new and existing oil and gas fields. The company, with roots back to 1841, has its headquarters in Oslo and is listed on Oslo Stock Exchange. Until 3 April 2008, the company was named Aker Kværner.

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  105. Kjell Inge Røkke ? What has he to do with everything ? He is sucsessfull in oil !

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  106. Thank you for posting this.  It’s never good when your employer makes you lie to friends and family to trap them into listening to your marketing presentation.  It’s sad that so many people buy into this mess.  I appreciate your honesty and willingness to explain everything.

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  107. It seems that the only motiviation for a WV person is to get travel deals for him or her self.  The fact that he may sell travel via his website seems very secondary, or almost an afterthought.  The question I have is: When I as a non WV member would go to a member’s website to book travel, since the WV member is NOT a knowledable travel agent with any real travel knowledge, who do I talk to if I have travel questions or issues that I would need answers to?  Is that handled by some at WV who is knowlegable about travel.  If so, who is that person or entity?

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  108. DEAR EVERYONE AND ESPECIALLY THE UK!!! I am  a travel professional for over a decade now, WorldVentures is a VERY SIMPLE but a GENIUS FORMULA!
    1. customers: guaranteed best priced travel deals at wholesale prices, guaranteed best flight prices on the net, daily discounts and 24 hours personal concierge service AND 60,000 villas that some poor people paid $5k – $80k for.. all for $50 a month. ANYONE in the last 6 years who tried a DreamTrip, 86% are still members. They’re happy!
    2. reps: they promote a product to the public that cannot be compared with anything else and DEPENDING ON THEIR OWN EFFORTS and TEAM efforts, they can make an unlimited income, all for $11 a month. They’re happy!
    3. vendors: hotels and cruise lines get paid CASH prior to groups arrival. NO travel company does this, on the contrary, hotels and cruise line companies are owed MILLIONS by agencies who are slowly going bankrupt. Vendors, they’re happy!
    4 company: pays 65% of all the revenue back out as commissions as it has no marketing or advertising expenditure, debt free from 5th month, and keeps 35% or so for itself for wages, reinvesting into their product and building the vision to be one of the biggest travel giants on the planet. They’re happy! It’s THAT simple! But yes… ALOT OF PEOPLE QUIT!!!! Around 50% of people get a divorce!! Does MARRIAGE NOT WORK? NO! I’ve been with WV for over 2 years now, I’ve made tens of thousands of $$$, I quit my full time career… but trust me, I’ve WORKED HARD to get where I am. I’ve seen the company at their biggest test times, where they’re ethics and integrity would be proved, and they always went above and beyond!
    Do me a favour, if you’re not going to play the game, don’t sit on the sideline and be a critic!!! Focus on YOUR dreams, remove the site and let us build our people’s dreams without such sites hitting people when they’re most vulnerable, at the beginning of their journey!
    This is the most incredible opportunity I’ve ever seen. 1. Enter the largest industry on the planet, TRAVEL! 2. Enter the largest source of new millionaires today, the INTERNET and 2. enter the fastest growing business model today, NETWORK MARKETING.
    Like I said, simple, but genius!

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  109. You are very convincing, that’s why you are a leader. I would believe you if I didn’t know better, I was telling the same stories to the people I was enrolling in my team.
    BTW where did you get that 86% statistic? Who can verify it? Any credible source? WorldVentures has one of the biggest dropout rates in Network Marketing.
    The internet is a place for people to express their opinions on any product experience they had. Like you can express your views on this blog freely, I can express mine.
    Yes the owners of WV are genius in how they are making big money based on a big lies. Unethical and dishonest. Good luck in your endeavors!

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  110. I dont need luck, I make my own luck! Youre the one who needs luck for stealing so many peoples dream! Network marketing is the most beautiful industry on the planet, and its blogs like this that destroy peoples hopes at the start, when theyre most vulnerable.
    READ AND LEARN PEOPLE…. Robert Kiyosaki, the GREATEST financial author in history… http://thebusinessofthe21stcentury.com/

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  111. You sound ignorant. You’re ripping people off

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  112. This blog is crazy! No offense to anyone but WV is a big joke, its a scam! if you “invest” in it you’re thirsty for friends. I rather throw in my blood and sweat to afford those vacation packages and that bmw instead of lying to people I care about.

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  113. Thank you very much. I just join a month ago, and I didnt feel right to invite my friend to join as I know they will have the same feeling as I do after they join. and about the dream trips, I was shocked and excited when i heard about that, but i didnt realized about the per person based on 2 sharing a room. just make it a x2 when u want to be same room as ur partner which makes it more expensive. Oh well, a lesson learnt.

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  114. Thank you so much for writing a coherent, fair, and concise account of your experience with WV. Ever since my first “travel party,” which I was roped into going to by my over-exuberant boyfriend, I have felt that they intentionally demonize outsiders (aka anybody with a dissenting opinion) by calling them stupid, not “solution-oriented,” “downers,” etc simply because the speakers cannot answer any critical questions straightforwardly and honestly (in my opinion, because the straightforward, honest answers would be that this IS a scam and they want to blind you with their “WE’RE SO EXCITED!!!!” tactics). I truly hope that my boyfriend will reach the same conclusion you have…eventually. He is not the most financially savvy person in the world, and these people are brainwashing the shit out of him, the poor kid. It’s caused I don’t even know how many fights. No company that is actually legit would have to go to such great lengths to manipulate potential customers into buying their product. Unfortunately there are millions of “suckers” out there who can’t see that and are roped into their propaganda, which plays upon the innocent hope of down and out people who are just looking to help themselves. It’s unethical, and it’s predatory, and nobody I know who has bought into this company has made ANY money, even though at the “travel parties” they are made to stand up in front of all the invited “prospects” and swear up and down that WV has brought them immense financial success – seriously, the speaker even admitted that to the rest of the group during the “training” portion after all of the prospects had left. It’s so messed up, and it’s all a lie. I don’t understand how ANY of this can be legal?! Furthermore, to Misty: your response illustrates the predatory, emotional manipulation used by WV that I have been trying to put into words ever since I first experienced it. Instead of actually responding, you attack, or divert, or “poison the well” – or at least attempt to – without realizing how much more damaging these tactics are to the company’s credibility than the author’s dissenting opinion in the first place. I remember at the “travel party” I went to, the speaker proceeded to tell the entire group NOT TO RESEARCH World Ventures because – and this is verbatim – “9 times out of 10 those nutjob reviews you see on the Internet are just trying to sell you their own product instead of ours.” ….Really? So all critiques of World Ventures are not valid, but rather stem from ulterior motives? I don’t see what the author of this post could possibly be “selling” since he does not mention his name, his new business, or anything else of the sort, however that is an impressively sneaky way of getting people to sign up on the spot. Combined with weighted labels such as “positive” vs. “negative” and “solution-oriented,” of course. Nobody wants to be a negative person!! Better sign up!! So sad. I truly hope that my boyfriend, his dad, and the other people roped into this unethical and unsustainable business selling nothing more than false pretenses and false hope find their way out with as little financial and emotional loss as possible.

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  115. Also, LOL at the post by the “leader” a few above mine: if WV was so reputable and awesome and fantabulous and whatever the hell else ya’ll are saying about it in your “travel parties” nowadays, why would one blog matter?! Lemme take a wild guess…hmm…maybe because it ISN’T so reputable and awesome and fantabulous as you guys say it is?? It’s so funny how you can’t see that the more you defend your company’s reputation on something as insignificant as a BLOG, the less reputable it becomes. Furthermore, using euphemisms such as people “on the beginning of their journey” to disguise what is truly meant – people who have just been to a “travel party” and are on the brink of paying you money but need to do some research first (“thinkers,” as they were condescendingly called at the “travel party” I attended) – is not fulfilling it’s intended purpose and is instead soiling you and your company’s reputation further. The worst part about all of this is that those poor people who can’t – or won’t – see through you and your company’s brainwashing tactics either cannot or choose not to do so because they are so desperate for change, hope, to fix themselves, etc. that they will believe anything that you say. And that, as a member of the human race who is fully equipped with all the tools of empathy and compassion yet still elects to not employ them – that should make you cringe with the shame of what you are doing. Because it is shameful, it is unethical, and it should be illegal.

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  116. These posts are amazing.  I am being asked to join. My current strategy is to use travelzoo for vacation packages and kayak for flights.  It comes out much cheaper than WV.  The airlines and hotels cannot compete and survive selling at rates lower than these two websites.  So far, the only advantage I see in WV is travelling with friends.  This is a membership selling business, there really is no product you cannot already find on the internet IMO.

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  117. Is it possible to get refund if i email them within 3 days to cancel. i regretted the moment i signed up for it. or rather, i am pressured to go for it. argh.

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  118. Hey. I’m talking with one of the leaders now and he pointed out I should better check ERNST&YOUNG point of view(WV founders were nominated in 2010 as you probably know). So ErnstYoung is surely 1000x more credible source than you. Tell me why they were nominated by EY cause I don’t have an answer for him. If EY says company is legit then obviously I belive them not you. They’re infinitely more reputable than your anon blog, right?

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  119. Dear Anonymous, I know you have good intentions and I can certainly outsmart those ‘leaders’ about how big accounting firms work. They were nominated 2 years ago by the offices of the company in DALLAS, which is one of the 100’s of offices around the world (so its just one mini local promotional award process), and Ernst & Young would not nominate anyone if they are not one of their BIG clients paying them BIG $$$$. Obviously WorldVentures makes a lot of money from its members and pays a lot of money to do their accounting so that they can operate legally, so awards like that don’t fool me, they are just promotional tricks even by Ernst & Young.  Thanks for you comment anyway.

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  120. 100’s of Offices??? MLM Blogger, VERIFY YOUR INFORMATION!!! They were nominated for their HEADQUARTERS in Dallas!!! They DO NOT have 100’s of offices – they have a couple of ticketing offices in the US, and Customer Service in Amsterdam, and 50,000 square ft offices in Plano Texas next to Ericsson, HP and on top of Dr Pepper!!! THATS IT!
    this blog is filled with ABSOLUTE RUBBISH!!! At the end of the day, you CAN NOT describe to someone what chocolate tastes like, if you havent been on a DreamTrip, YOU HAVE NO IDEA what our product is all about.
    You’ve been scammed? SHOW me a business for $365 that you can grow an uncapped income with a product EVERYONE wants and needs???!
    Actually, forget it, go back to your day job! And whilst youre there, go out and buy a timeshare for $20,000 so you can have for 1 week a year what we get 365 days of the year x 1000, and purcahse your flights more expensive, and dont get savings on over 1,000 online shops, or daily discounts in THOUSANDS of business allover the world, or 24 hour Concierge Service to help you live a better lifestyle.
    We prefer not to go traveling with you… forgot to mention WV is only for positive, like minded people, its not for everyone.
    God Bless!

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  121. You misunderstood, I meant one of the 100’s of offices that Ernst & Young owns around the world (http://www.ey.com), so this was a small regional nomination, not a national level one.

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  122. Well I don’t have a Job and WorldVentures is not the only way to ‘make a living, living’ in this world! Also, for people who do have a job, why does WorldVentures decide to present it as something bad, since you NEED 80% of your members to have a job so that they can pay memberships for the rest 20% to make a living out of it?
    Also I did go to a couple of Dreamtrips and I wrote in my article that I enjoyed the experience, that is not my issue with the company if you read carefully what I write.

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  123. There is an MLM-like company under investigation now (almost certain that they had committed some crime as shown in the last link below) in Singapore and Malaysia and this company was endorsed by ex-Prime Minister of M’sia and several other VIPs. Being “endorsed” by EY does not mean much. Lehman Bonds were given triple A credit rating just before it collapsed too.
    http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20121008-376341.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM8phkrEP_M http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_press&pg=en_press_all&ac=2666

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  124. Well  I find in these comments ,true and lies but lets see the facts. MLM is around for years,Avon,Herbalife etc. People involved in MLM some of them made money some of them not. It is the same like all business,not everybody can succeed it needs hardwork and dedication. Now WV product is not super but from the day they said if you find cheaper we will pay back 150% on difference I would say that is a fair deal. I am in Cyprus and I have seen people making real money from WV. About ethics, I am in sales, how many times we sold a product trying to convince that is the best with the best price bla bla , and sometimes we knew that this is not true and sometimes we did not know if is true because we didnt do an actual research about it because we need to sell to survive? WV is offering a product and a business. Product is getting better all the time and the business plan is fair for those that they put time and work. As i said is impossible for everyone to succeed so if you are enrolling based to statistics and you consider yourself in the part  that they actually not make a living do not join. Is the same for all business if you start and feel that you cannot succed forget it you do not have a chance to do something special in your life even if you do something completely different.
    Andreas C.

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  125. Andreas C., I appreciate your comment and its nice to hear from people from all over the world, this blog is a forum and I like to hear from people who have positive experiences too. Also, I have nothing against MLM as a business model.
    I am not aware how this money bank guarantee works as I am not anymore with the company, they introduced it a long time after I quit,  but the truth is that when I was discussing with the company the Dreamtrips prices using evidence that I found the same or lower prices online and directly from hotels, the company DID blackmail to terminate me and did not accept that I was merely trying to help overall and not loose members…That was the reason I lost all interest and quit, I found it so unethical.
    If you read my blog post above, I mention that they even tried to say that nor me or my team members where allowed to call hotels directly to double check prices as independent clients, if we were enrolled in WorldVentures as members and that if we did that it was against the rules and they would have to terminate us for breaking the rules!…. many things happened at that time which didn’t make sense and made me loose all my trust and belief in the company… now after I published this blog, I have conformation from other people, like the guy from Israel who found me here, with very similar experiences to me….Have in mind that at the time that I quit, the rules and regulations stated clearly that the company DID NOT in any way guarantee lower prices, even if at the presentations, this was our main selling point, the ‘bulk buying and very low prices’…
    Maybe this blog has helped the company realize their mistakes and they made this new guarantee (which I still cannot trust that it works like they say, I’m afraid there might be some loopholes to it, like everything this company does), as otherwise they might not have existed today!
    But still, isn’t it strange that the biggest leader of the company, Steve Little (who I met personally on a number of occasions) whose name and earnings they used to promote so much at the presentations and on their webistes and the fact that him and his family were set for life for generations to come, is not in the company anymore and not getting paid by the company anymore? How is this company really treating its leaders? The excuse of his termination was that he was selling some other ‘toxic’ investments to the members, but I personally know tons of ‘leaders’ who use their member’s list to sell other courses, books, investments etc, and nobody in the company management seems to pay attention…. Why did they have to terminate Steve Little and Kalpesh Patel and so many other high paid leaders out of the blue? I know more about this that all you newer members do… it was one of the other reasons that put me off about this company, how easily they ‘fire’ anyone who has an opinion that is different than theirs, even if this opinion is given to them to help the company.
    Also regarding working hard to succeed, I have nothing against that either, however I don’t agree with the way that the presentations are structured, so that people believe this venture is easy and are pressurized to enroll without thinking about it too much.
    The reason the presentations are structured this way marketing wise, is that if WorldVentures reps presented all the truth as it is at the ‘travel parties’, about how hard they work and the fact that they have given up a lot to succeed, much less people would enroll…because most people get into WorldVentures for the easy profit, that’s why they don’t last, not to mention the long term residual which is a lie if you stop enrolling people.
    I would have stayed for as many years as it took and I would fight for it, IF I hadn’t lost my belief and respect for the company. This blog is serious and above all true. Just presents the other side of the story.
    Good Luck in your endeavors, from the US.

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  126. As  the Blogger and I are no longer members of WV you should have no problem stating your name and your position which must be at least Director. Since the terms DON’T PROHIBIT  you from showing to non members your income disclosure I would be happy if you can forward yours to me at worldventuresripoff@gmail.com In addition I would like to see where you came up with that statistic of 86  percent which remain who have taken A dream trip. Finally I would ask you to question the company on any practices you feel are inappropriate SUCH AS people getting booted from the company as myself for merely voicing their opinion and having the company pocket their hard earned  money by giving them the boot. Also I am very much surprised any low level employee would work for WV earning $35,000 dollars a year. Wait, do  to you think a high school dropout “Jane Doe” who take s calls all day telling people any reason that they can not get a refund is earning $562,000(IMD average) After all why tie themselves down to a job when they get get income “month after month after month……”(snap those fingers).  The company successful people continuously repeat themselves that people must be crazy to go to work every day 9-5 for a measly paycheck. Shouldn’t’t they be saying this to the WV personnel.

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  127. Blogger.  I believe steve little was terminated due to him recruiting for another company.  That in of itself isn’t bad or unethical.  What he was doing though was recruiting from other peoples downlines into another gig.  Now that is unethical.  What do you think??

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  128. Good question Sam. The ‘official’ answer from the company on the reasons why Steve Little was terminated, was that he was promoting what they described as ‘toxic’ investments to members of his team.
    If you read the rules and procedures of the company that EVERY Rep should abide by, no rep is allowed to promote ANYTHING else to members of their team and if the company finds out about ANY of such activities, the rep can be terminated. Let me ask you something…how many reps of WorldVentures have income exclusively from WorldVentures and don’t do anything else for a living? That would be less than 0.01% who are making enough from WorldVentures to stop working on any other business.
    If WorldVentures would really abide to those rules they would have to terminate more than 50% of their reps and 80% of their leaders, since most of them are promoting other things to their team members. For example lot of the low level reps are enrolled in more than one MLM companies and cross-promoting is inevitable, why don’t they mass terminate all these people?
    Also I have personally experienced a lot of the top leaders indirectly promoting other things to their teams that they profit from, mainly seminars, coaching courses, investment schemes and books. So if the company wanted to be fair, they would either terminate everyone or no-one. You don’t go terminating your top income earner on this silly excuse when you know that most of your other leaders are doing similar things!
    WorldVentures have got their ethics messed up!

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  129. This is how many people would be involved after 13 levels from the top one person: 2 176 782 336, if each person have to recruit 6 members. This is ridicilous. I dont even know how to say that huge number. There is a point when there are no more people on this planet to recruit. And this people who can not recruit people are those who are paying the BMW’s for the people in the top. I was attending a recruit party in Sweden yesterday. It took me two minutes to figure out those numbers. I got a brain and know how to use it.
    Nice article

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  130. Umm… Jesus tried that 2,0000 years ago, and still hasnt succeeded! Amway has been trying for 60 years, and in 2011 did their first $1b month, but still hasnt succeeded.
    Theory doesnt work here, reality does!

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  131. Greetings from Singapore!
    Thank you for sharing this article.
    I was invited to the sales party by a good friend of mine. I have been to many other MLM company presentation before and World Ventures is the 1st one that I have seen that the audience are so easily sold on the idea. The idea itself is very tempting and easy to sell since most who are invited are travel lovers. They showed a fun video of a recent dreamtrip that the members and there were quite a few recognizable faces (local celebrities) in the video. They even showed up at the presentation to share their testimonial. By the end of the presentation, I think there are about 10% of the audience has already signed up right away.
    My friend’s ‘sponsor’ (X) spoken to me after the presentation. He told me that because WV is very new in Singapore, it’s the best time to enter. While I was surfing the website, I noticed that all the dreamtrips do not happen in the Asia region, I think there’s only 2 dreamtrips. X tried to convince me that because WV is very new in Singapore, more trips in the region will open up when the members size gets bigger and we can even send in request for dreamtrips in the region. But I am not very convinced about the benefits that I can get as a member enjoying the dreamtrips.
    To be continued..
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  132. ….Continued from above
    While most of my questions are surrounding the benefits that one could get as a club member, X kept directing me to the discussion on benefit as a representative (aka building a business using WV). So I probed further on the compensation scheme and such. I was told that if I managed to sell 4 membership, my initial payment will be refunded and monthly payment waived. Then my question is if they keep refunding the initial payment and waive monthly payment, how are they going to make money to pay the rep? X answered: because they will always be people paying at the bottom of the structure. Erm.. in my mind, I was thinking it feels weird to use the money that new members paid for the membership to pay to the people on top because to me, the membership is not a direct product that the customers benefit from. I am a business owner myself and I believe in customers paying money in exchange for value adding services/products. But for WV, this link seems to be missing. I keep asking myself, what exactly are we making money from? In WV, one seems to be making money on the sales of membership to a club where customers can have a chance to enjoy cheap trips (which might or might not happen). It is like buying a hope to enjoy good deals. I think it could have been easier for me to understand if one is earning commission by selling travel trips..
    I tried to clarify with my friend & X as I told them that it felt like a ponzi scheme as there is no actual product. They told me the product is the membership and further explain:
    There are 3 types of memberships: 1) Customer – get to enjoy the dreamtrips but don’t sell membership nor do they earn commission 2) Representative ONLY – get to enjoy the dreamtrips, can sell membership, earn commission and get their initial payment refunded & monthly payment waived after 4 memberships 3) Customer + Representative
    If the impression is that they earn by recruiting ‘Reps’, it is wrong and it is illegal to do so. They can only draw commission when they sell membership type 1 & 3 (which is 1+2). But no matter how I see, it looked like they were disguising ‘the getting paid by recruiting ‘Rep” part by packaging a so-called product ‘customer membership’.
    In the end, I walked away from the ‘opportunity’ which is supposedly too good to be missed and anyone with a good business acumen should be able to recognise it. Well.. I might be a fool to walk away, but I rather not get myself involved in something that doesn’t feel right.
    I have shared my views with my friend who invited me to the sales party. She did not share my point of view but did not push further to try to convert me. While WV is not something for me, if it works for my friend, I am more than happy to share in her news of success. But my only fear is that she gets herself involved in something illegal or unethical without herself knowing. I guess only time will tell.. And one can only take responsible for whatever decision one make.
    SL

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  133. I am curious to know why if all those above have so much conviction regarding their comments and allegations why not fearlessly place your name with your posts? If not with WV any longer, what do you have to lose by backing all of this boldly with your name? No proof or what? I am a new comer to WV but what credibility can I give to an anoymous? I see people tear down people all the day long in every day life…so why would I believe someone afraid to put their name behind their statements if it’s the truth? I really appreciate a warning but know agendas are out there for whatever reason…Not neccesarily convinced. What is your motive? Are you a jealous travel agent? Sincerely, JOY TRUJILLO

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  134. Hi Joy,   If you read the blog closely you would notice that the blog was net set up (just like mine is) to convinve people to cancel , but really to give people an review of some serious flaws with the company. My name is Alan, and any question you have you can email to me at worldventuresripoff@gmail.com My article is http://isworldventuresascam.blogspot.co.il/

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  135. Hello,
    I am minister in a small community in Wisconsin.  By pure chance or perhaps providence, my wi-fi quit on me as I was researching my sermon, so I left my usual workspace and went to the local coffee house. I was happy and surprised to see a young church member of mine there who I hadn’t seen in a few months and was able to visit with him a bit.  He said that he had come to the coffee shop for some kind of presentation.  In a few minutes he met up with some young ladies.  I was trying not to overhear the conversation but as the “presentation” went on and on I became increasingly alarmed for this young man.  The sell was an extremely “hard sell.”  As I say, at first I tried to stop my ears because it is wrong to eavesdrop but eventually I tuned in.  What they were saying horrified me. It was all about money and BMWs and getting your friends in on it, and bringing them people to sell to and something about vacations and “quality of life.”  I didn’t know what to do so I finally decided to go over to their table and ask if I could talk with the young man for just a moment.   I took him aside and asked him if he needed an excuse to get away.  He said he was fine, and that he knew it was basically a scam and there was no problem.  I gave a huge sigh of relief.  But after the young man and I chatted some more after his meeting was over and he left the coffee house, another young girl came to meet with the young ladies.  This time, I eavesdropped.  It wasn’t hard. They were talking quite loudly.  The young lady was poor, hardworking, eager and she fell for it.  She promised to work 25 hours a week on the business.  That’s what really got to me.  She was so desperate and so hopeful.  They took her social security number.  They wanted to get her check card number right then. When that meeting was over, I was wondering how to alert the young lady that something was wrong but then I thought to myself, that perhaps the sales people themselves were unfamiliar with the state law about pyramid schemes.  Perhaps they themselves were in thrall.  So when the lead sales lady passed by me I asked her if I could speak to her privately.  It turned out she was a WorldVentures representative.  She said that WorldVentures was her baby and it was as if I was calling the “baby” ugly.  If something is right and good there is no need to get at all defensive or hostile.  I was flabbergasted by her replies to my questions as well as her showing me her BMW keyring of all things.  As if I would have any interest whatsoever!   This may not be illegal because they sell some kind of product but this is unethical and it is unethical right from the get go.  I certainly don’t want to hurt anyone but I can’t stand by and see young people in my community (keep in mind the recession has hit us pretty hard and things are tough even if you are working) made into victims.  Do you have any ideas of what I might do to discourage Worldventures from hanging out in my community? They seem to have taken up residence in the coffee shop and I heard the head sales rep making more appointments for later days.

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  136. It is very difficult business to deal with . I would warn the members of the church and notify them of all the problems involved. You should in fact read this Blog in the sermon. I am one of the two people behind the blog. We wrote this after one of us  lefting the company and I booted for viocing our opinons. We don’t hate the company or the product, WHAT WE HATE IS WHAT THE COMPANY STANDS FOR AND HOW IT OPERATES IN DOING SO. The people behind the company are exactly aware of what they were doing from the day they started. It was done for one reason , greed. The have no interest or relation with anyone in the company except they agreed to pay very few people who use their tactics(without complaining or they would get the boot)which are unethical and borderline legal. You can contact me at worldventuresripoff@gmail.com with your number and I will be happy to elaborate. Sincerely,
    Alan

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  137. Thank you very much for your reply.  I will certainly try to alert people to what is happening. Thank you for the contact information.  I will certainly get in touch you if I have further questions in the future. Again, thank you very much.

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  138. Went to a meeting the other night. Friend who I haven’t spoke to in months tells me he wants to hang out because he has “something to show me.” I blew him off a couple of times just because I didn’t know him like that and I had speculations on what it was since there will be some of his friends there and the drive to where he wanted to meet was 30 to 45 mins away. Finally I gave in and went out of my way to see what he had to show me. When I got there, I felt as if I was at a college house party but all they had were bargain brand sodas to serve to guests. I was greeted by my friend and numerous amounts of kids who were reluctant to tell me what the purpose of the meeting was. Jokingly, I asked if this was a cult or fight club since they told me it was something that not a lot of people don’t know about and to respect the discretion of the meeting. Screw that I said since I just wanted to see what this was about. The presentation began with a slide show of “dream destinations,” price comparisons, and etc. At the end, I was given a form to fill out if I was interested with the pay structure of those who move up in the ranks. The overhype, yelling, and bad infomercial acting of the presentation was convincing since I signed up immediately paying 150 dollars. Myself and probably 6 others remained for the second part of the presentation in which the speaker discussed the approach when talking to potential customers and clients; the way my “friend” bought me in. He then discussed the advantages of signing up and if you don’t, basically you’re an idiot. Ok…. So I found out when reading other blogs, others went through the same thing I went through when it came to “being contacted by someone you rarely spoke with” or spending money to travel to all these meetings and paying to go to the seminars. I was honestly turned off by the approach which is why I called And emailed WV for a refund and cancellation of my membership. IMO, those who are very motivated and enthusiastic can benefit from this but I only say that since some of the individuals who gave their stories made good money, got a BMW, and found financial happiness with WV. I am happy for them but for me… I love my job, I get reimbursed for travel and per diem since it requires a lot of traveling, food is free, etc. I Recommend those going into this to just have a back up plan or a primary source of income and be very social able and positive since yes, you are trying to sell a product. When trying to get your friends in doing business with you, make sure you know them well enough since in the end, they may not be the person you think they are and your friendship with them may be on the line… I mean, you did kind of deceive them into driving out of their way to hang out with you months after not talking. Better yet, pick them up and buy them dinner. Working in retail management in the past, honesty and a positive attitude sells as well as confidence. Even if you’re looking to make new friends who have a primary interest as you will have, ie business, go for it. They’re more than willing to help you succeed and add others under you since your recruiter will be making their share of the profits.

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  139. Did you get your money back? Recently signed up and thinking of doing the same…whom do I contact for refund?

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  140. My friend just join 2weeks ago and I let her read this.. Pls teach us how to deactivate her account before her 1st Month will lapse.. We are waiting for response.. Thanks..

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  141. The only way you can cancel is to contact the company directly, there must be a cancellations phone number in your back-office

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  142. Those of you who are blaming the company are so PATHETIC!!!!
    YOU control YOUR business, like ANY other business you would do!!
    Just because YOU could not do it, does NOT mean that NO ONE can do it.
    Average people live average lives!

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  143. This is part of the brainwashing that goes on at the WV seminars and ‘bootcamp’s, that everyone who is not in WorldVentures or dropped out of it, lives an average life and are unsuccessful. Oh well!

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  144. You don’t really control YOUR “business” when product and price are set by someone else. That becomes their business and you are being controlled, not in control. But the egos attracted to WV won’t admit they may be wrong or move on, which is their choice, but I’ve seen it destroy families and friendships based on the never ending selling and “non-believers” stigma.

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  145. Very true my friend, its crazy how people in WV are brainwashed to think that they are actually building their own business. I explained in the article my experience with that, but people still come on the blog to comment about THEIR business! The truth will always shine eventually though…

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  146. Thanks for the article!  Like so many other readers, I’ve recently been approached in regards to joining this group.  I went to one of their meetings and was immediately turned off by the cheesy over-enthusiasm and the way that everyone else in the room seemed to soak everything up without questioning it at all.  The guy giving the presentation even called me out, I guess because of the skeptical look on my face.  I’m sorry, but any group that encourages it’s participants NOT to ask questions but to jump in with two feet is not something that I want to be a part of.  Still, I sat through the entire presentation, and I’ll admit that the pictures of all the dream destinations were pretty tempting.  I’m a photographer, I love to travel, and had I been a few years younger, I probably would have been suckered in by those images alone.
    Fortunately, I was raised to ask questions and to understand exactly what I’m getting myself into whenever I sign up for something.  On top of that, I’ve learned to trust my gut instinct, and although they do a great job of convincing people that they’re all rich and happy and drive BMWs and go to the Bahamas on a regular basis, there was just something about the group that did not set well with me.  Reading this article, I think you pretty much hit every nail on the head.  When the guest speaker that night was talking about how to rope your friends in, I thought about all the people I could invite.  Now I have a small group of very close friends and a whole lot of acquaintances.  I couldn’t imagine one of them buying into this, and I especially don’t want to pressure them or trick them.
    I also find it interesting that everything that the WV representatives on this blog are spouting out are the exact same things you hear at meetings.  “Anyone who says ‘no’ to this opportunity obviously doesn’t want to be happy.  They’re full of negativity, but you know what?  We don’t want to travel with them anyway!”  When I heard the lecturer say this, I was even more turned off.  Having questions and wanting to be informed about what I’m buying into makes me negative?  Okay then.  I guess I’m negative.
    As it turns out, my two best friends in the world had actually attended meetings before I’d even heard of WV.  I should mention that these two friends do not know each other and they went to separate meetings.  Neither of them joined and when I mentioned it to them, both voiced concern over the same things that had been plaguing me about the company.  I am so thankful that I did not give into the pressure.  I trust these two friends above everyone else and the fact that neither of them joined speaks volumes to me.  Both expressed sincere relief that I didn’t buy into it either.
    Like the original posters, I wish nothing but success and happiness for those who genuinely believe in WV.  It’s important to have something you love so much and that brings you so much happiness.  I would be careful though.  Nowadays, nothing is a sure thing.

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  147. Joined 2 months ago and now am director, soon hitting MD…
    This is not for everyone….
    Good luck in your lives everyone!!

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  148. Good for you, that’s how excited everyone is in the beginning. And for sure, this is not for everyone, but don’t let me start a discussion about the ‘profile’ of people who are good for this company long term

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  149. MLM Blogger, nice article. Thank you for taking the time to post this information.
    For those of you who are upset at the original poster for not using his actual name, and using that fact to discredit the context of this article, are completely irrational. So what the article doesn’t have the actual name of the poster, what does it matter to you? Are you going to find him on facebook or find his email and harass him?
    Simply having a name behind a blog post does not validate it. For all we know half of the articles you read on blogs by ordinary people could be false anyways. Would even a false name give an article credibility, for you people who wouldn’t know the difference? Hell, I would not disclose my name so easily on a blog post either, seeing as how angry WV members get at a simple dissenting opinion. A name wouldn’t make an ounce of difference, and wouldn’t change anyone’s opinions about the content. If anything it would do away with these stupid “well why don’t you put your name behind the post if your so confident?” arguments, which in all sincerity, is the lamest argument you could present against this post. People please use your brains and think logically, rather than let your emotions take control and spew this nonsense.
    There are very few groups which I sincerely view as brainwashed but sadly, World Ventures is one of them.

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  150. First off, I would like to congratulate WorldVentures! Kudos to you for managing to legalise your Pyamid/Ponzi scheme while maintaining “transparency”.
    “We are not for everyone”, what an ingenius and manipulative slogan. Brilliant indeed. Sure, a handful of people might actually make decent money out of this while being given benefits such as unexplained termination and ass-kissing those above them 24/7. WorldVenture’s claim of “No quotas, no high pressure selling” sure seems legitimate. I’m sure all high-ranked WorldVenture employees/representatives are workaholics by nature. That must be it. The secret to success in WorldVenture is easy – don’t give a rat’s ass about integrity and relationships. How simple!
    No, I am not jealous that I am not granted the golden opportunity of running a scam in broad daylight. And no, I cannot bring myself to blame individuals who just want to change their life for falling victim to this vicious game of prey-and-predator. Success stories are all around the world, whether you like it or not. In fact, some are taking place even as I type this. People are made to believe that there’s always room at the top, that they’re different from others. Selling a dream and generating motivation through psychological attacks are among the few key traits of a “successful” network marketer.
    I believe that tales of success inspire many. However, coping with reality and knowing our limits are crucial in achieving success apart from dealing with criticisms while maintaining an open frame of mind. For those who have been brainwashed, this task is far from easy. Even building castles in the air is deemed possible once you set your mind to it. You’d be willing to blindly put in the hours and hours of effort to no avail. Just remember this: There’s no smoke without fire.

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  151. I did YTB…. dropped out of it at the right time, and it became creepy when their national events started to to become religious evangelical tent gatherings….. Not Kidding.  The problem with these things, is that I couldn’t compete with other travel websites, like expedia, orbitz, or travelocity.  All I could do was refer travel clients to the website to book trips, and they’d find better deals elsewhere, and if they did book through me, I had no power to make changes to their vacations etc.  Remember, NO ONE is a travel agent here, all this is about is recruiting sales members.  You do not have access to the travel industry booking platforms to provide travel assistance.

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  152. a old friend did talk to me and wanted to take an beer with me and i went to the place and did se my friend with another woman so i did find myself a table an wait for him i always take a look at the people in the same room and i did se a man with his ipad and fansy suit and this time i did not got eny good feling abouth this meeting and my friend come over to me and we talk for 10 min and the man with the ipad come over to us and start talking and show me a film i did say i need to think on it just to have enything to say and after it both off them left so i start to wounder i have an steady income and i like to travle buth i like to plan my own travels with friends and travle i now price can be high buth i think you get wat you pay for i now i have the money to travle buth and the time if i want and i am thinking i am aming to have my own company one day buth i want it to be in my own field and give people a product i have done in my head this is good and it is more interesting and exciting to get into and sukse WorldVentures does not seem to be as interesting as starting a conventional business buth I’m a little unsure and i only have 10 min talking to him

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  153. Look at this and all of you think which one are you? It is important that we all stay positive and stop these puny and tiny arguments. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKXspt459LE&feature=related

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  154. I just recently signed up and a friend send me this. I did some research prior but apparently not enough. This just made me sick. A friend of mine went on vacation already with it and saved 1500 for her and her son, but now shes having a problem booking again. I mean for her, the 1500 saved is worth the down payment of being in the company if she waved her fees but i dont want to show this to anyone else and i want to get out right away,

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  155. I signed up after initially being excited about the prospect of getting good deals on vacations. I wasn’t interested in selling to others unless the product was as amazing as advertised, especially since I make 6 figures at my current job. However, I thought it would be worth the $260 plus $50/month if the deals were that good. So I got my membership and access to the website and preceded to do several hours of research/ price comparison.  THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SAVINGS! THEY ARE SELLING AIR!  At least for the vast majority of “Dreamtrips”. In many cases I could have booked several days before or after at the same exact hotel with Hotwire and saved lots of $$ when compared with Dreamtrips. THE ONLY savings with Dreamtrips is with their loss leader trips and cruises, and these are EXTREMELY difficult to book, they are only offered once a month and sell out in about half an hour. Oh and by the way you dont find out destination or date until after you book. I cancelled my membership within the three days, and when I called them I was pleasantly surprised with how helpful they were, and I got my $$ back within a week. Although good luck finding a phone number anywhere on their websites. Just Google worldventures BBB and they have all their contact info there. ITS NOT A PYRAMID SCHEME, THEY ARE JUST SELLING A PRODUCT WITH LITTLE OR NO VALUE!!!!!!!

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  156. This is exactly why I quit, I couldn’t offer a product with little or no value and especially lie at presentations, it just took me much longer than you to realize what was going on. And the most absurd that happened which was the final stroke, was when I contacted the company and the leadership with concerns of misrepresentation of prices at presentations and evidence of my research that most trips were not discounted, I was blackmailed with termination!

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  157. Imagine if Sams Club sold memberships that really didn’t have any discounts. Imagine if Amway sold a product that everyone could get for free elsewhere. Imagine that you know both of these things yet you told everyone that you had this AMAZING/MAGICAL product that was something that you should buy, and then sell to all your friends and relatives.
    Imagine that, and you have World Ventures.
    Before all you WV hacks pile on, do your research for real, and then ask yourself why would you sell your closest friends and family members something that you KNOW is a “product” that has very little, if any, value.
    If you say you don’t care, you blindly believe in your “product”, and how dare I be so negative and “closeminded”…Congrats!!! You are exactly the right person for your “job”.
    C.W.S. 31 yo Salesman extraordinaire 200K/year Cash enough to buy an M5, but that’s a waste (or for fleased posers) Chevy driver World traveler, thanks Hotwire

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  158. Oh and Jessica Costales, your vapid and inane ramblings about how the “product” is really less important than the “experience” of being around “like minded people” leads me to believe that you are EXACTLY the right person for WorldVentures.
    C.W.S.

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  159. Hi Everyone
    Every business has its pros and cons, even my own job – when you apply for the job you first read the job description, you then go for the interview and get the job however what you doing is not what you read on the job description however you still making a honest living. You not calling people from your phone to meet up when all you want from them is a sale. Why would any friend what another good friend to scrap up R3000 joining fee + R500 monthly fee when you know they cannot really afford it?? but you already persuaded this friend and he has fallen so hard that he will even borrow the money to join the Team and earn in Dollars… Later on he realizes there is not way he can fine 6 friends to join his team and is therefore obligated to pay that R500  monthly fee… Its amazing to hear WV pitch, they all happy clappy however it’s a game to make a living..  BUT not everyone succeeds…

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  160. My husband joined a few months ago but did nothing with it.  He called and wanted out of it and got refunded one month’s payment.  Most direct sales companies refund up to 90% of your buy-in if you decide not to do it before one full year is up.  Does World Ventures honor this?
    Lauren Lodie0382@gmail.com

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  161. I was introduced to WV few days ago here in Singapore. Have not attended any talks though. Was planning to do so soon but am having 2nd thoughts now. Initially, when my friend shared about WV, I was excited because I thought the discounted hotel rates was for any hotels anywhere in the world (something like agoda, hotels.com etc). It was only after doing my research online, I found out you can only choose the so-called good deals that WV offers. You have to go to the countries and stay in the hotel designated by WV. I dun really regard that as “DREAMTRIPS”. A dreamtrip for me is something that I plan myself, go where I like, stay where i like. Once my plan is up, i’ll then search for the best deals. If you ask me to go on Rovia and choose a trip from the limited choices (compared to all the travel packages all around the world), it feels more like an enforced trip. If WV was offering memberships with perks I thought it had, I really dun mind sharing this with all my frens. But if it is just gathering more frens to come up with money so you can earn abit while whole chunk goes to WV, im not that charitable yet. I will join WV if I have 100 frens who gives me commitment they will sign up under me. haha!fat hope!but i guess thats the only way you can actually earn from this scheme. good luck to those who thinks money comes easy and that all your frenships can withstand the storm. What joy or satisfaction can you really get from sucking blood out of your frens?now that i noe the product is not up to my satisfaction, i seriously will not recommend any of my frens to join even if i did. but hey, I wont be joining. jus wanted to join in the fun!

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  162. I have no intentions on joining and never have. I’ve read most everything and it sounds just like an Amway presentation that I went to in ’95, and joined.
    Top earners walking around in suit and ties giving amazing presentations. I remember during the presentations they would compare Amway to McDonalds. My quoting may not be exact from almost 20 years ago, but it went something like this, “Ray Crok had a vision of developing the largest fast food chain in the world. He knew to do this he couldn’t do it alone, do he got people to buy the franchise. He collected a franchise fee from each person that open a franchise. But we will not collect a fee, you go get people to build YOUR franchise and we’ll pay you.”
    I’m probably a little off with the wording, but it’s the same idea. Build those “dreams” and “visions” in your head, picture yourself being as wealthy as Ray Crok, give a large investment – get a lot more in return.
    Honestly, I did make money. It was about $4.50, after I spent hundreds on “Scientifically Developed” from the “Amway labs” which had all the same ingredients and the cheapo generic multivitamin.
    But, AMWAY vitamins give you SUPER POWERS, just because the name is on the bottle. Just like this company gives you SUPER-deals, SUPER-vacations, SUPER-friendships, just sign your life away first.

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  163. Just read this interesting article in the New York Observer that I thought some of your readers might be interested in if they’re curious about WorldVentures and whether to join or not:
    http://observer.com/2012/08/do-the-hustle-can-worldventures-use-pyramid-power-to-become-the-new-amway/

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  164. Thank you, very interesting and the journalist has gone into great lengths to talk to ex and current WorldVentures leaders and get both sides of the story. Excellent investigative article, I posted it on my blog.

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  165. I find it interesting that the comments on the article are all so positive and trying to discredit the article.  That to me proves exactly what the article is telling you:  WV will squash any negative articles or comments about their organization by possibly having those connected to WV write comments.  Did that happen here?  I have no idea but what I do know is that is is highly unlikely for ANYTHING to have only positive reviews and if it does buyer beware as I’ve never come across anything perfect or people not having a variety of opinions.  The worlds best hotels, restaurants, entertaining etc don’t have all great reviews and if they do chances are they aren’t written by true customers.

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  166. This article has many flaws. It makes claims based on heresy without any proof. Why not show a copy of the email stating you would be fired? You say that WV is lying about buying in bulk? Prove it. You make claims without backing it up. You are obviously vindictive and you are obviously negative. Why not use the Price Guaranty? Get 150% of the price of the trip?
    I love WV, and I think you are a disgrace. If you really cared about those so-called “friends” you made at WV, why are you slandering it? This is potentially damaging to their business… And your anonymity merely highlights your cowardice.
    Shady character. Glad you’re no longer a part.

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  167. Go you! Exactly what my thoughts were about the e-mail

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  168. To the above World Ventures hack who “loves WV” and thinks this blogger is a “disgrace”. You are PERFECT for WV because you blindly believe anything they tell you without question.  The “price guarantee” is bogus, bogus, BOGUS!  The reason?  WV states that if you find “exactly” the same vacation at a lower price you will be refunded 150% right?  The reason they do this is because they say it has to be “exactly” the same package.  ALL of there trips include some little extra $50-$100 “gift” or trip to and from the airport, or round of golf etc.  Never listing exactly what shuttle they use or golf course they use.  Therefore you would have to find the “exact” shuttle service, the exact “extra gift package” the exact golf course and price all these into the “trip package”   But you CAN’T!
    That is how they get away with the bogus “price guarantee”.
    A five year old could spend 15 minutes online, and find better deals for 99% of the destinations they have. THE ONLY trips that are actually a “deal” are the loss leader trips and cruises, and these are nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get into, because they sell out in a matter of minutes and are offered only once a month.  (and by the way, you don’t know dates or destinations for most of these)
    Again, you are perfect for WV because you are a brain dead sheep, who will be content with your tiny Ponzi Scheme checks, but most importantly you don’t care if you sell your friends and family something that is really of little or no value, you just keep “drinking the KoolAide”. Sooner or later you will wake up to reality when this company has sucked you and your family dry.
    C.W.S. 31 yo Salesman extraordinaire 200K/year Cash enough to buy an M5, but that’s a waste (or for fleased posers) Chevy driver World traveler, thanks Hotwire

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  169. Hi,   As one of the authors of the blog , my greateast frustration is that the people who “love WV” are all doing so because the WV puts great efforts into the “brainwash” which most people don’t have the ability to comprehend.It’s  a “positive environment” that these people see except for those who question the company policies and gurantees. You see the price guarantee is not only for the small throw ins that they give you but for that specific hotel. Unlike a product sold in many places, this gurantee is not for a better deal in that location but for the specific hotel package. So if WV offer a deal for 300 dollars to a hotel called “JANE DOE 4 STAR” including brakfast in Miami for Sep. 1-3 , and you find a deal called “JANE DOE 5 STAR including full board for 280 dollars” for the same dates – despite it being obious that the deal you found is better – it will not be held by the company standards as worth of a price comparison. What WV really strives at is you thinking: 1. The company cares about you. 2. That you are part owners of the company. If anyone were to take the time and just read the documents written in such a crafty manner you would realize the following: 1. you are called an independent rep- the liability is on you 2. The primary goal of the company – “to sell membership”. By thje way it is clearly stated that in the contract. 3. The “Wings and Wheels”- i.e. BMW deal – are highly unlikely for people to sustain and the members wind up having to lay out the lease out of their own pockets. I am always amazed how people write “my friend applied for the BMW deal” withoug ever having read the contract and provision provided” most important that you consistently mantain the sales level to receive the 600 dollarsa a month for the lease. I am quite certain over 90 percent who apply for the BMW at some point lay out money out of their own pocket. Sincerely Alan Worldventuresripoff@gmail.com

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  170. I have an idea for all the ex WV folks: Start your own intervention company! Seriously, all MLM’s at their core have a fundamental problem, they mix business with family/friends. That usually is a recipe for disaster. They are destructive, not totally unlike alcoholism. As mentioned in the review, I think many people are in too deep and don’t know how to get out, even after seeing the truth behind the ‘dream’. I am not a member, but I know many who are hooked. I’d be willing to pay money to someone to help free loved ones from the WV clutches. Think about it, it’s people like me that put money into WV just because we try to maintain family harmony, even though we see through the charade. Reason alone won’t work with these people, they are addicted to the rush!

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  171. I have a theory regarding the $69 sizzle trips: I think WV just subsidizes them. From their point of view, it’s a marketing expense. They don’t drive some hard bargain with the cruise lines.  They get the usual group discount, WV covers several hundred dollars then gets to tell you that the trip only costs $69, which you’ll use to bring in more people. As they say in Vegas, the House always wins!

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  172. I’m all amped up because I just got home a few hours ago from having spent over 5 hours meeting up with old friends from my college days.  The wife had been trying to get this time together and mentioned in passing that they had something they wanted to run by me. OK?  I started getting the feeling that it was about business, which honestly bummed me out because it sounded sneaky, but I was too passive to bluntly broach the subject (I have my moments….sometimes quiet, often direct )
    When I saw them tonight we caught up for a bit, and they mentioned after a few hours: “Maybe next time we can show you what we were hoping to tell you about.”  ( Hey, at least they weren’t going for the Hard Sell! )  I was curious, so I got the “spiel” on the whole World Ventures gig, watching the Intro Presentation I take it by the guy wearing the absolutely distracting-funky shirt with paisley inner cuffs?!  WT? (sorry, an aside)
    I also confess that I am the “Ideal Candidate”.  I am at a crossroads, working our small mom-and-pop business, barely surviving this hellish economy, and burned out, i.e. not having the drive to build our business up and up…I am not excited about my work, it’s not the best fit for me, I haven’t taken a long vacation in many years, and yes, I DO want my money to work more for me, and OF COURSE, I love vacations and travel.
    BUT…one thing stood out to me and I asked them:  Does the membership basically cater to Middle Class and Upper Middle Class and Rich Folk?  The fees already mean someone would have to travel enough to make up the difference, so….( in my mind I was thinking “I” wouldn’t pay for it MYSELF, given the fact that I would shop around on the InterNet, but then again, maybe I would just purchase the membership and use it a few months, save some money, then cancel…I dunno…haven’t crunched all the numbers and angles ).
    YES and YES again:  I believe in “under promising and over delivering”…I am so proud of you ( Alan? ) for your principles and for bothering to question….ANY institution that does not allow questioning is at minimum unhealthy, but often shady and again, “cultish”…I’m not into mind control or being a sheep myself.
    What is MORE is that the husband of this couple is a CFP…Financial Planner!?….( man, I am really confused now! )…they both are low-key, but she is very ambitious, and they used the lines I read about now…”It’s all about helping people”…”It’s about Personal Development”…( that confused me, too…yeah, enjoy building a business, but it sounded suddenly like a religion…I didn’t get it when I heard it…still don’t  :-\  )  They spoke of the Training Meetings, of people whooping and hollering, and how the husband was all cynical at first, “but when you see the people under you going up on stage and being successful, well…you just suddenly feel good”….that “makes sense”, I said: “Yeah, sure, I can see being happy for others, but I don’t believe in all of the cheering just to cheer.”
    …ehhhhh…this all just sounds so hokey now…I was excited about selling Vacation Plans that I “thought” were a great deal, but now I can’t get behind something I don’t believe in…
    …To go from Elation to Downersville within hours is, I guess, a Blessing in Disguise…I love my pals, and I don’t think they will call me “Negative” or a “Loser”…the true losers are the ones who are putting so much time and energy into marketing a product that is not a good value after all…and the top brass of WV probably knew it all along…

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  173. To those who believe in World Ventures and similar companies, if it was so easy to make money, everybody on earth would be rich. A big thank you to you all who have shared your experiences. I was also approached by them, everything looked so easy but was definitely a big fat lie.
    I did ask lots of questions and their answers were so not convincing. I felt bad for those old people who were filling forms.
    Friends of mine joined a similar company. Every time they want to travel, regardless of the time of the year and destination, all hotels are fully booked. Weird!!!

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  174. I am 26 years old and have been a member of WV for two months and personally have saved close to $1000 as well as booked over $1500 in rooms through my booking site which on average save my friends and family about $20 a night. I have been able to find rooms through my site that were showing up unavailable through the actual hotels website. I also have made a commission on buying my groceries through my Dreamtrips mall, and yes I do receive them. Thos who buy a membership must use the product  in order to reap the benefits. Just recently I was able to book a 4 day and 3 night stay at a 5 star historic hotel in New Orleans for only $25 a day. I can go into a bathroom stall and get all kinds of nasty information about people but does that mean it’s true? Not at all. I had read this blog before joining but I didn’t let it make my own personal decision of whether or not I could save money or benefit from this program and I am glad I didn’t because World Ventures has followed through oeverything it promised and I will never look back, even if I pay monthly membership fees. I use the product and I save that money 10 fold. I’m not dogging anyone on this site, just sharing my own personal experiences because that’s why this blog was created. Good luck on everyone’s journey in life! World Ventures has opened up many new great doors of opportunity for my wife and I because we now have money left over for other things that we would enjoy doing as well as we get to use our travel dollars on trips instead of money out of pocket!

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  175. cant w8 the time till this bubble explode in ur face , still i m young and i ve got some friends in WV and although they are informed of this negative/positive things, they still think that WV is good…. The phrase ” been there , done that ” rings any bells to all of u ?

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  176. There is money in wd but only for those that they were in the right place in the right time. Cyprus: when the momentum started those who started it and bravo made money. Ofcourse before Cyprus oppened the high ranking in the company spoted there people and helped them to start it IE Matt Morris and allmost  Cyprus is under him and his friends 3 musketeers. Singapore the same now Bulgaria and Australia and the game goes on. So if you are the one to help these guys start a country then you have a big chance to make money out if it. And when the story starts going down ,people start leaving then we go else where and all over again. The funny thing in all these they tell you that enroll with WD to have free time and these guys they do not rest at all. Why because is very hard work to keep your ranking and enjoy the residual income because on some point you have to enroll more than those they quit otherwise you start descending. Anyway the big money is not on the ranking but on cycles so evryone enrolled for them is going through there cycle accumulation and they do not care if you stay or go as long as the you paid and stayed for one month.Thats all they will get from you and if you manage to enroll 2-3 of your  friend ,family much better. Anyway at the end you will loose your friend because presentation compared to reality are very far. The product is not so strong comparing to packages you can find in the internet together that you pay subscription. I will give you only one example and pls check it, Cyprus enrolled around 7000 ,who makes real money, Mat -3 musk big money and 3-4 the crumbs the rest are dreaming thet they maybe get a chance if they manage to enroll somebody who knows sombody (preferably in a new country) and they will be first and when the momentum will start they will make it big, they forget though that in new countries months before opening the sharks have there people ready and again they will not have a chance, sharks have a lot money so they invest from before 🙂 So this is the story from my side of view. I wish good luck to those that they are trying but never forget that only 0.03% makes money so keep your jobs invest time and money offcourse because taking people to presentations costs (coffees,petrol etc).If you are thinking going to different countries than your location ,prepare a mortgage on your house and ……maybe you can paid it off sometime. By the way I am enrolled I got the get six and I stopped because I really do love my friends and I need them by my site always. lol from Athens

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  177. Well you got the maths right my friend, and the fact that all those who promise ‘Freedom’ when you reach their level work like crazy to keep their ranking,  just defies the whole purpose of the ‘make a living, living’ slogan.

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  178. Just read this carefully only.There are more but this is  enough. https://cdn.anonfiles.com/1337913478386.pdf

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  179. I thought this was a virus link, but its not! Its a 72 page document of an interrogation of a former WorldVentures employee who explains clearly how the spots of top IMD’s were ‘grandfathered’ into the position with the blessings of WorldVentures owners….Lies, so many lies, so much cheating…that’s the reason I quit.
    I suspected some of those things in the document, but I was kind of hoping I would one day be proven wrong, so that my friends who are still in WorldVentures would not feel deceived by their leaders like me.
    If you are in WorldVentures and working hard, even maintaining one of those high spots, you will feel deceived after reading this document. The only person who is justified to my opinion is Matt Morris, because its just common sense that since WorldVentures bought Success University from him, they would manipulate his spot from the start so that he would be a top earner, they did ‘buy’ thousands of people from him after all… but all the others, really it makes me sick, as sick as it made me when I first realized all the lies  that were going on and wanted out.
    It takes a long time to read, but worth the time if you are looking to know some cold hard facts.

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  180. My friend just tried to get me into this huge fallacy “Worldventures” and he even got me to talk to his leader person I dont know but he basically told me “If you think you can do it then join but if you cant then I dont think your what we want in this company” one word fuck you dude playing reverse psychology on me like really? Just by watching the first intro video I new this was a sham reminded me of Vector.

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  181. This is not a leadership statement most probably a failed mrezhovik who dealt with Foreverliving, Amway. Avon, LR, DXN, soaps, juices, coffees, etc. anyway you use them because they are unique. But to put your hand on the tourism industry and especially wv which is lightning hits the 21 century certainly will not pass your number because people are not fools to be a light and love as long as there not be a thief of dreams.
    With respect to your fear

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  182. This document shows that Mike Azcue and Wayne Nugent pleaded guilty to income tax evasion Here is the public website of the Dallas county court system: http://courtecom.dallascounty.org/pav/ The case number is: dc1109451 3/23/2012  see this in the case files. I know they told that they were reach before WD,sure:)

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  183. I agree with you Danae. Guys tel me one MLM that the rep only get money if he recruit. I sell VIP travel membership with them and if lets say I have 50 customers and they use it,buy travel, what I get nothing, so they must see the “dream” then the dreamed ones find other dreamers and if they wake up there you go you have  nightnares xaxaxax, seriously I cant stop laughing. There is no product to sell the product you sell is recruiting and if we recruit the whole planet then…Anyway officially 1% buys MLM but they buy actual product. They say travel business is trilions, ok and then do we get anycommsion on this trillions no so why they use it since is only recruiting ,give the figure of how many are going vacations as a number not as a turnover if u want to use it. Ah sory I forget you can become a travel agent to sell to your friends tickets , but how you want me to recruit my friends, sry its crazy.. Now I go to bed and I will dream , this is more real that WD dream.

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  184. Just came back from WV presentation here in Singapore.Since I have prior experience in MLM, I chickened out easily by asking them the question they wont know to answer. If you are in Singapore, ask the WV team whether this company registered in Singapore ? if so where is its office located? If a company is collecting money from people , they are suppose to pay tax for it. Even the hawker would be paying tax for his shop. How come there is no office in Singapore and where does the money go?Isnt it illegal ? True the worst thing to lose is your loyal friends.When something sounds to be too good to be true, stop and think thrice. Only hard work can give you success and happiness always doesn’t lie in your bank balance.Stay safe.

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  185. I just left a WV presentation an hour ago I left in 30 minutes and knew it was a pyramid.  Not for me

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  186. Yes, attended a presentation on 13 Oct 2012, out of pity and had time to burn. Once look at the comp plan and I took my leave. Do not want to be ‘suckered’.
    Everyone, really must do your due diligence on WV.

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  187. Dear Anonumous
    I have tried to reach you by email so you could help me out by getting out of this company but i have not yet received a reply. please do contact me on my email at elenikolokasi@gmail.com

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  188. Leni this website cannot help people with the logistics of cancelling their WorldVentures membership, you have to contact the company directly for that.

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  189. MLM could you please tell me who to contact at the WV company to cancel this membership that I feel like I was twisted into buying, I don’t want it. Thank you in advance. I wish I had read your blog before I was invited to deceiving cocktail get together,

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  190. I would like to share my experience of a presentation by WorldVenture reps here in Thessaloniki, Greece, an event I literally came back from only a few hours ago.
    Step 1, Getting us to attend the event under false pretenses:
    A person who I wouldn’t even categorize as an acquaintance called us after he had learned that I and my wife recently started an online shop. He sounded very interested to discuss our new business and ways we could possibly cross-promote our businesses. He said almost nothing about his work, simply saying it was related to tourism. We are eager to network and promote our shop, so we said “What the hell, let’s do it!” Note that we weren’t even told that there was an event.
    Step 2, Sizing up the prospective client and starting the brainwashing:
    When we got there and sat down with our “friend”, other reps started coming and sizing us up. The questions raised many flags. “What do you do for a living?” “How much do you make?” “Are you happy with what you do?” I found the questions probing and offensive, so my answers were purposefully evasive. I understood that they were looking for financial info and hoping to find someone disillusioned with his work. They seemed frustrated with the fact that we didn’t leap into this pedantic conversation about our professional lives with strangers. The “leader” of the event, a man younger than me, continued with an offensive sales pitch: “Don’t you want to accomplish more in life?! I think you are setting the bar too low and you have become a cog in the ‘machine’ ‘they’ have set up to exploit you! You’d better listen well during my presentation because I am offering you the chance to transform your life! But you need to be ‘open-minded’. If you listen to me you can become a successful manager like me, with employees working for me in many countries. And I was nothing more than a half-educated, unsuccessful electrician.” By this point, our bullshit alarm had gone through the roof! After this nonsense, we were just there to enjoy the circus.
    Step 3, The presentation:
    The presentation was a jumbled, amateurish mess. It started with poorly presented “facts” about the potential future growth of tourism. I say “facts” in quotes, because there was not a single reference mentioned regarding the presented info. I am scientifically trained and a presentation with so many “facts” and no sources was unpleasant to watch.
    Then he went on with slides of exotic places lifted off Google images, spliced with people having smiley fun on Dreamtrips vacations. He spent a considerable amount of time mentioning the low prices of the vacations and took very little time to mention the subscription fee. A quick calculation in my head told me that I could easily afford a relatively decent vacation just by saving up the money I would pay for their damned subscription.
    The final part of the presentation was the whole pyramid rep scheme (the bloody thing even looks like a pyramid on the slide!). It’s fairly obvious that this type of geometric progression of rep recruitment that they demand is extremely difficult to maintain before you start running out of people. It’s just a pyramid scheme in sheep’s clothing. I was quite bored by this point and I started staring at my wife. The rep saw this and said “Why are you talking?! Aren’t you interested in what I am saying?!” I told my wife to leave quickly before I opened my mouth. I teach, so making presentations is part of my work and I couldn’t believe the lack of professionalism being displayed.
    Needless to say, this was one of THE stupidest, most mind-numbing and offensive things I have experienced in a long time. These people are obviously bad news, their marketing strategies are unethical and their business plan makes no sense whatsoever. I apologize if I have offended anyone, but this is my raw reaction. Thanks for reading.

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  191. After a year of running this blog, it has now reached 600 to 700 pageviews per day and there is a steady increase in visits each month! I am thinking if WorldVentures officials want to compensate me financially for all the losses I incurred during the time I was with WorldVentures and all the losses I incurred by being forced to quit due to the bad ethics presented by the company, I will consider putting this blog down for good and never dealing with anything that has to do with WorldVentures ever again. WorldVentures management, think about it and e-mail me at: bloggerblgs@gmail.com. Regards, MLM Blogger
    These are the statistics of visits the past one week (Sept 29 to October 6 2012), WorldVentures management, have a look:
    Pageviews by Countries
    United States 2925 Singapore 743 Malaysia 164 Greece 134 Cyprus 104 United Kingdom 66 Norway 51 Canada 18 Thailand 16 Sweden 14

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  192. I was introduced into this scheme two days ago by a good friend. I was excited at first. My intention was to use it for myself as I travel a lot and do all the bookings by myself. So I know if a deal is good when I see one. I was trying to go into their website and eventually find all those they offered. It was fortunate for me that all the offerings was not really cheap and only on specific dates. I just compared the prices with Cosmos travel and realised it’s not for me. Also it’s not cheap. So what’s the point of getting stuck with something with a normal price and can’t simply choose the date you like. I’m sad that the friend who introduced me this scheme was actually looking for something to retire with but he hardly travel and he knows nothing about holiday packages. I think that was how he got caught.

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  193. You really make me sick! your research sucks because you are NOT accredited to be giving this advise.. All it is, is your opinion.. AND I FOR ONE DO NOT BUY YOU OPINION OR WANT YOUR LIFESTYLE!

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  194. I just signed up yesterday. How do I quit?

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  195. To quit, get the email at your back office and email them and tell them why you want to quit. If you dont give any reason they’ll pretend to ask you for reasons again and delay. In any case they will always delay in replying. So you must always keep emailing everyday and keep bother them until you get a reply.

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  196. Sooooo… I’m signing up tomorrow. Anyone know if they actually offer good discounts on the trips now? And if there is so much a member would have to spend on trips a year to remain a member??  These are the only specifics that I question. I love the fact that it’s no contract. I love the fact that I could quit at anytime if it doesn’t work out. I love their voluntourism projects. I for one am a person with a positive mindset. And I’m ready to make things happen.

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  197. I also posted the comment that you probably just read. I don’t have any intentions of deceiving people. I’ll let them know what I know. because I think that’s what people should do. I’m not going to invite them for cocktails and spring it on them. I am a non pressuring person, and I am primarily motivated by the money at the moment. I need it. In a bad way. I guess what I’m saying is…. Did you at least make decent money? And does anyone know if they still charge reps for training?

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  198. hey guys i signed up a month ago… i wanted to quit already but if do so is there a possibility that i can take my money back? Please advice im in a big worry right now. Thanks in advance.

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  199. thank you thank you again for all your comments. it is an eye opener for me. i was introduced by my friend to a presentation yesterday and i was very suspicious so i had to find out more about my suspicions.  thank you all again for clearing these up for me.

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  200. I was invited to go somewhere today with my sister from a relative we havent seen/spoken in ages.  That person called my aunt and told her that she would come and pick us up (me and my sis.) to go somewhere.  She would not tell her where this place was and she could not even let us know what is was about.I would feel a lot better if i could go with my car but she insisted on picking us up.  Anyways,  since we are both unemployed we decided to check this out since that relative made it sound like it had something to do with a job. After arriving at the place i have to admit it felt really awkward.  As far as i understood we were the ‘new ones’ and a lot of people came to greet us etc.  They asked a lot of questions like what do we do for a living, if we have any exp with tourism and travel, what have we studied etc.  I found everyone to be extremely friendly to the point where we felt really awkward.  Everyone was very touchy touchy which is something i dont like.  Needless to say, no one would tell us what this was about.  We actually thought it was some sort of cult with all this secrecy.  When it was time for the presentation to start we all took our seats.  That relative who took us there had reserve seats for us right in the front row.  The presentation started and it was EXACTLY like how you guys described it.  It seamed amazing at the beginning looking at all the trips they had gone to and the savings they made so me and my sis were almost tricked.  There were things we did not understand(ex.  right team, left team, how you actually make money etc) and when it ended we were supposed to ask the person who brought us there any questions. When we did ask her, her answers were vague and did’t really explain anything.  After telling her that we did not have the money for it (They were asking for 280 euros + 40euros membership each month.)  She said that if we REALLY wanted it we could borrow the money from someone or take a loan from the bank.  SERIOUSLY??? At that point she became really pushy and wanted us to choose that moment if we wanted to sign up or not.  When i asked her if we could think about it and let her know in a couple of days she kept rambling about a point in which you enter and if you lose that timing then you would lose the opportunity.  I kept insisting that i wanted to think about it and then she brought a form to complete.  When i asked her what it was about she said it’s just  to know who participated in the meeting.  She would ask me the questions and write down the answers.  I could not even see the form.  Then she asked for my signature and handed me the form.  I wanted to read what it was about but at that moment i clicked thinking why would she need my signature for just participating?  I told her i did not want to sign (THANK GOD I DID NOT) and she said that’s ok but that would be the right thing to do.~(?)It was our first time experiencing something like this (I live in Cyprus btw) and i have to admit it was quite scary.  I felt really pressured into signing up and i’m glad i didnt.  After reading all of these posts i probably did the right thing.

How to Build a Computer #5

June 7th, 2008

This is the fifth and final portion of the series covering choosing the components for your computer. So far in the series, we have covered every item in the list below that is italicized. As always, the items with an asterisk beside them are optional, depending on your computer set up.

Here are links to the first four installments of the series in case you missed them:

Tech Tip 84 – How to Build a Computer
Part 1: Choosing the Basic Computer Components

Tech Tip 85 – How to Build a Computer
Part 2: Choosing the Hard Drive, RAM & Motherboard

Tech Tip 86 – How to Build a Computer
Part 3: Choosing the CPU & Heat Sink Fan

Tech Tip 88 – How to Build a Computer
Part 4: Choosing the Hard and Floppy Drive Cables, CD/DVD Drive Cable and Graphics Card

• Chassis/case
• Power supply
• CD drives
• DVD drives
• Floppy Drive*
• Hard Drive(s)
• RAM (random access memory)
• Motherboard
• CPU (central processing unit)
• CPU heat sink/fan
• Thermal paste
• Hard drive cable
• Floppy drive cable*
• CD/DVD drive cable
• Graphics card*
(optional if your motherboard has onboard graphics)
• Sound card* (optional if your motherboard has onboard sound)
• Display/Monitor
• Keyboard
• Mouse
• Speakers*

 

Computer Monitor

Choosing the monitor for your new computer is one of the more personal choices when it comes to selecting components for your computer system. Depending on how you will be using your computer, you will want to choose a monitor that tailors to those uses. If you are a graphic designer and absolutely need to have colors on the screen that look exactly like what you get on paper when it is printed, you should shop for a high-end graphic design display, such as the Eizo CE240W or an Apple Cinema Display.

If the main use for your system is going to be PC gaming, you may want a display with the lowest possible response time to help ensure your images will not be blurred during game play, and that you will not experience a phenomenon known as ghosting. Ghosting is when images on LCDs change too quickly for the LCD to completely redraw the next image. The resulting image that is similar to what you would see on a TV that is using an antenna and picking up more than one station on the same frequency. Again, what you are looking for is the fastest pixel response time your budget will allow.

For some uses, you may want a CRT display rather than LCD. For instance, for video editing and other tasks that require extreme high resolutions, CRTs are often the better choice. Just be sure when you are choosing your display that you consider what you’ll be doing with your system, and buy the highest quality display you can fit into your budget.

Keyboard

The keyboard is another computer peripheral that at first glance seems quite uncomplicated. However, the keyboard is one of the most overlooked places that you can gain productivity and increase gaming fun. For gamers, there are number of gaming specific keyboards on the market, such as the Wolf King Warrior USB Ultimate FPS Gaming Pad which is very well laid out for first person games. The Logitech G15 has a traditional keyboard layout that would work as well.

If your tastes don’t lean towards gaming, you can still get a keyboard that will help increase your productivity and comfort. There are a large number of keyboards designed to both reduce the strain on your arms and wrists, and help you control different types of media on your computer such as MP3s and video.

Users going for the cleanest desktop they can get will want to go wireless. However, I don’t recommend wireless mice and keyboards for gaming due to possible response latency. At the end of the day, the choice really comes down to your preference and your computing style.


Mouse

Much like keyboards, the mouse is another component where gamers can improve their game play. There are many special-purpose gaming mice on the market such as the Razer line of mice, as well as a variety of mice from Logitech, such as the G5 and G7. When choosing a mouse, gamers should keep an eye on the optical resolution of the mouse and the type of mouse (i.e. laser or optical). There are still some ball mice on the market, even though that technology is quickly becoming archaic. The vast majority of newer mice will be either optical or laser. Laser mice tend to be more sensitive, more cutting-edge and more expensive, while optical mice tend to be cheaper and less sensitive.

Even if you’re not a gamer, you will still want to pay attention to the mouse you choose. You’d be surprised at the productivity you can lose if you choose a poorly designed mouse. I have found over the years that a mouse with extra programmable buttons that control Web browsing forward and backwards is a big timesaver, not to mention a scroll button for quickly scrolling up and down a page.

Speakers

PC speakers are an optional component of your computer system. If you’re not interested in hearing sounds and music from your computer, you can simply skip this component all-together. However, for the gamers, music fans and video buffs out there, the speakers you choose are one of the components that can make or break the immersion you get while doing what you do. Ideally, you will want a set of 5.1 surround sound speakers. However, if your budget is limited, then any set of speakers will allow you to hear the sound output from your favorite game or program. Just remember that with speakers especially, you really get what you pay for.

How to Build a Computer #4

June 7th, 2008

Note: This is part four of a multipart series on choosing the components for and building a computer.

This week, we are continuing our series on how to build a computer with choosing the best components for your custom computer system. So far in the series, we have covered the components shown in italics below. Today, we will cover the cables and cards shown in bold.

Here are links to the first three installments of the series in case you missed them:

Tech Tip 84 – How to Build a Computer
Part 1: Choosing the Basic Computer Components

Tech Tip 85 – How to Build a Computer
Part 2: Choosing the Hard Drive, RAM & Motherboard

Tech Tip 86 – How to Build a Computer
Part 3: Choosing the CPU & Heat Sink Fan

• Chassis/case
• Power supply
• CD drives
• DVD drives
• Floppy Drive*
• Hard Drive(s)
• RAM (random access memory)
• Motherboard
• CPU (central processing unit)
• CPU heat sink/fan
• Thermal paste
• Hard drive cable
• Floppy drive cable*
• CD/DVD drive cable
• Video card (graphics card)*
(optional if your motherboard has onboard graphics)
• Sound card* (optional if your motherboard has onboard sound)
• Monitor (display)
• Input – Keyboard/Mouse
• Speakers*
• Operating system software

 

Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Cable

If you bought a new motherboard for your project, it likely came with a hard drive cable. The cables for the HDD and the compact disk (CD) or digital video disk (DVD) drive look very similar. However, the cable for the HDD has more wires in it than optical drive cables. One glance at the two and you will see the difference. If you are using SATA (serial ATA: advanced technology attachment) drives, the cable will be a little different as well. Most retail-boxed hard drives will ship with a SATA cable. If your motherboard has SATA ports, it probably came with cables you can use rather than having to purchase new ones.

When using Integrated Drive Electronics (IDE) hard drives, you can use rounded cables over the older ribbon-style cables. The rounded cables look much better, which is important in windowed cases, and helps cool by not restricting air flow as much. You can typically get both rounded and ribbon cables that will connect two drives per cable. I also want to mention that it is important to keep your hard drive on a separate IDE channel than your optical drive, and make your faster hard drive the master drive. This will help to ensure you get the fastest speed from your drives.

Floppy Drive Cable

If you choose not to use a floppy drive in your system, you obviously will not need a floppy drive cable. However, if you are using a floppy drive, you want to be sure that you use the correct cable and install it correctly. Unlike IDE drives and SATA cables, floppy disk drive (FDD) cables are not keyed. This means that you can easily install the cable incorrectly and ruin any floppy disk you try to boot from. Funny thing is that it’s possible to not realize that a floppy cable is installed incorrectly, making you wonder why you are unable to read floppies created by that computer in any other computer and vise-versa. It could leave you puzzled for days!

Much like the HDD cables, floppy cables are available in both ribbon style and rounded cables. Again, the rounded cables tend to be better from a cooling standpoint as they help promote better airflow. However, both rounded and ribbon-style cables will perform the same in practical use.


CD/DVD Drive Cable

This cable is required for your system if you intend to use a CD/DVD drive on your computer. Again, you can get both rounded and ribbon-style CD/DVD drive cables. A few manufacturers also offer SATA optical drives now. The type of cable you choose will depend on the type of drives you purchase and your cable preference. Most cables will support two optical drives.

Video Cards

This is the component most gamers spend the most on along side their CPU. Your video, or graphics, card will have a huge effect on how well your computer performs in games. The video card is optional on some boards. However, it is only optional on motherboards that have on-board graphics.

The vast majority of high performance motherboards will not have on-board graphics and you will still on occasion come across older motherboards that may need an accelerated graphics port (AGP) card. However, if you are buying a new CPU and motherboard, you will likely be looking to buy a peripheral component interconnect (PCI) Express video card. Be sure that you buy the correct graphics card interface to match the interface on your motherboard and you will be fine.

There is a huge variance in the price of video cards on the market. For instance if you opt for a maxed out quad scalable link interface (SLI) system with dual Nvidia 7950 GX2 graphics cards, you will easily spend over $1,000.00 on video cards alone. If you go with something along the lines of an ATI X1300 Pro, you are looking at under $100.00. If you are a gamer, the video card is where you will want to spend your extra cash.

Sound Cards

Sound cards are optional in this day when the vast majority of motherboards come with on-board sound, however, there is a lot to be said for some of the aftermarket sound cards. For example, if you want to run 5.1 or 7.1 Dolby sound, odds are you will need an aftermarket card. Hardcore gamers will likely want to look at something like the Creative X-Fi series, as the difference in sound quality with the X-Fi series is impressive. However, if you are on a budget, you can save your cash if your board has built-in sound.

How to Build a Computer #3

June 7th, 2008

Note: This is the third installment in an ongoing series that will detail how to build a computer starting with selecting the components and covering everything in between up to installing the OS and tweaking the BIOS. Here are the previous installment links for Tech Tip 84 and Tech Tip 85.

This week, we will pick up our series on how to build a computer where we left off and talk about the CPU (Central Processing Unit). So far in this series, we have covered choosing your case, power supply, CD drive, and floppy drive in Part One. Last week in Part Two, we went over choosing the hard drive, RAM, and motherboard.

This article on the CPU and CPU heat sink covers some of the most important parts of your computer. As always, the items covered in this article will be denoted in bold print in our list below. Components covered in previous articles will be denoted in italics and asterisks denote optional components.

• Chassis/case
• Power supply
• CD drives
• DVD drives
• Floppy Drive*
• Hard Drive(s)
• RAM (random access memory)
• Motherboard
• CPU (central processing unit)
• CPU heat sink/fan
• Thermal paste
• Hard drive cable
• Floppy drive cable*
• CD/DVD drive cable
• Video card (graphics card)*
(optional if your motherboard has onboard graphics)
• Sound card* (optional if your motherboard has onboard sound)
• Monitor (display)
• Input – Keyboard/Mouse
• Speakers*
• Operating system software

 

CPU

Like motherboards, there are a number of different CPUs on the market. Choosing which CPU you buy depends on what you want to do with your computer and the size of your budget. High-end CPUs like the new AMD FX-62 can run you about $1,000.00. On the other end of the AMD spectrum, you can get an AMD Sempron CPU, such as this one from Geeks.com for under $90.00.

What’s the difference? Mostly, the difference is in the speed of the processor and the number of cores the CPU chip has. A dual core processor, like the AMD FX-62 has two physical processors, or cores, inside the one chip. Two cores allows the processor to do more work and run more tasks simultaneously without making your computer run sluggishly. On the other hand, a single core processor has only one core and can’t do as much work at once.

Do you need dual cores? It depends on what you will do. Gamers should go with dual cores if possible. A substantial number of developers are working on bringing multi-threaded applications and games to market. Soon, dual core processors will have a much greater advantage over single-core or traditional processors than they do today. For example, one of the patches for the game Quake 4 enables support for multi-core processors and you get much better performance.

Dual core processors benefit more users than just gamers. If you are into digital video editing or music creation on your PC, a dual core processor can help you work faster and more efficiently. On the other hand, if you only use your computer for browsing the Web, email, and the occasional word processing document, a dual core CPU may be overkill.

Intel also makes some fantastic dual core and single core processors. Both brands of processor will do the same job and both manufacturers have equivalent products. I suggest that you buy your preferred brand or compare specifications from independent reviews online, such as this one. The CPU is one of the parts you will want to spend extra cash on because it will help your system run faster and more efficiently, extending the time between upgrades. Until we get to graphics cards, assuming you have adequate RAM, the CPU is where you will see the most performance gains from your finished system.

When choosing either brand of CPU, you absolutely must keep in mind the socket type and match the CPU socket to the motherboard socket. The sockets do not interchange between manufacturers, and just because the pin pattern on the bottom of your CPU looks similar to the socket on your motherboard DOES NOT mean they are compatible. The CPU manufacturer will have the required socket clearly labeled, just as the motherboard manufacturer will have the socket on the motherboard labeled. Simply match them up for compatibility. Often, the easiest thing to do is to purchase a motherboard/CPU combo to rule out errors at this point.

CPU Heatsink/Fan

This is an absolutely essential component of the computer. You CANNOT start your computer up without having a CPU heatsink and fan combo installed correctly. Running your computer for even a few seconds without the heatsink and fan installed can ruin your CPU due to overheating. We will go over the correct installation procedure for the CPU heatsink/fan combo in a later issue of this series.

Just like the CPU and the motherboard, the CPU heatsink/fan combo is specific to a socket type due to the required retention system. Each socket tends to have a completely different retention system, therefore requires a different heatsink. Some do interchange, but not all. Be sure to check compatibility before you buy and install your heatsink.

Many boxed retail CPU sets include the compatible heatsink and fan. However, if you buy a bulk OEM CPU, you will need to purchase the appropriate heatsink for the CPU. There are many manufacturers of heatsinks, and every one makes them a bit differently. The one thing they have in common will be the correct retention mechanism for the specified socket type.

How the heatsink/fan combo looks is irrelevant. What is important is that it fits in the case you bought. Typically, the larger the heatsink and fan, the cooler your CPU will run. Often, the cooler your CPU runs, the longer it will last and the more performance you can get out of your system. It is important to note here that advanced users and overclockers may decide to choose liquid cooling or the more exotic phase-change cooling rather than a simpler, but less effective heatsink and fan combo. Liquid cooling and phase change cooling are beyond the scope of this series, but if there are enough requests for it, we may do a Tech Tip on the subject of exotic or out-of-the ordinary cooling systems available.


Thermal Paste

Thermal paste is also known as thermal (transfer) compound or thermal grease. There are many different brands of thermal paste on the market. If you buy a boxed CPU retail or a new heatsink/fan combo, chances are that it will come with a pad of thermal paste of some sort already applied.

Most likely, the paste pre-applied to the heatsinks will be fine for your needs. However, many PC enthusiasts go for a higher quality thermal paste such as Artic Silver. The main point here is that thermal paste of some sort is not optional. You absolutely must apply thermal paste to your CPU or risk destroying it the first time you try to boot up your new computer. Check with the manufacturer for instructions for applying the thermal paste.

How to Build a Computer #2

June 7th, 2008

Note: This is the second installment in an ongoing series that will detail how to build a computer starting with selecting the components and covering everything in between up to installing the OS and tweaking the BIOS.

We began our series on how to build a computer last week when we covered choosing the case, power supply, CD/DVD drives, and floppy drive. This week, we will continue by looking at how to select a motherboard, hard drive, and memory (RAM) for your computer system. The information provided here is of a basic nature for those new to computer building and selecting components. The hardware on the component list below in italics was covered in a previous installment of this series. Today, we will be covering the hardware in bold. Asterisks denote optional components.

• Chassis/case
• Power supply
• CD drives
• DVD drives
• Floppy Drive*
• Hard Drive(s)
• RAM (random access memory)
• Motherboard
• CPU (central processing unit)
• CPU heat sink/fan
• Thermal paste
• Hard drive cable
• Floppy drive cable*
• CD/DVD drive cable
• Video card (graphics card)*
(optional if your motherboard has onboard graphics)
• Sound card* (optional if your motherboard has onboard sound)
• Monitor (display)
• Input – Keyboard/Mouse
• Speakers*
• Operating system software

 

Hard Drive

There are a number of different hard drive manufacturers and hard drive types in a wide price range, but basically internal hard drives are available in two internal styles: IDE and SATA. SATA drives are newer, offer improved performance over IDE drives with regards to bandwidth and data transfer speeds, and use thinner serial cables versus the bulkier ribbon cables used by IDE drives. However, IDE drives are still available and every motherboard still has the required IDE headers (connectors) on them. The same can’t be said for SATA drives; some of the older motherboards around don’t have SATA ports on them. SATA drives also come in two speeds: SATA 3.0 GB/s and the standard (150 mb/second) SATA ports. You will want to check compatibility with your motherboard before you purchase your hard drive.

The capacity of the hard drive you buy is really a matter of personal choice. Currently, the largest capacity you can get on an internal single hard drive is 750GB. Obviously, the larger the capacity, the more the drive costs. I recommend you get the largest drive your budget can absorb.

RAM (Random Access Memory)

Much like hard drives, there are many choices available for RAM, depending on the manufacturer and speed of the product. You need to be sure that you are buying the appropriate RAM for your system. Some motherboards will accept DDR2 and some will only accept original DDR. All AMD motherboards accept only DDR memory, except the newest socket AM2 systems. Most all Intel systems that are currently on the market use DDR2, as do the new AMD AM2 platforms.

RAM [check out this Tech Tip on memory] is typically specified by both a gigahertz (GHz) speed as well as latency, such as OCZ PC5300 333MHz. If you are searching for gaming RAM, you will want to keep an eye on the latency of the RAM. Generic modules of RAM will likely not list the latencies, while high performance and gaming RAM will certainly list them. The lower the latency numbers, the better the performance you can expect from your modules.

Some systems, such as the AMD socket AM2 systems, benefit more from lower latencies than they do from higher clock speeds. You will want to do some research to determine what is better for your system: high memory speeds or lower latencies. Obviously, the best of both worlds would be RAM with both high clock speeds and low latencies.

The amount of RAM depends on both your budget, as well as what you intend the system to be used for when it’s completed. If you are going to build a gaming computer system, I strongly recommend a minimum of 2GB of RAM. The way games are trending, 2GB of RAM is swiftly becoming the norm for high-end titles to perform at their best. Currently, I see no need for more than 2GB of RAM in standard gaming systems. RAM can be one of the most expensive components of your system. For a basic Windows XP system intended for simple web browsing, word processing, and maybe some simple games (ie., Solitaire), 1GB of RAM should be adequate.

Motherboard

One of the most difficult hardware choices for someone building their first system is the motherboard [check out this Tech Tip on motherboard basics]. Because the motherboard is the heart of the computer, it is critical that the motherboard and the CPU (Central Processing Unit) you purchase are compatible. To determine compatibility, look for the processor socket type – all CPUs will list their socket type in the description. As an example, the processor in my system is an AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ socket AM2. To buy a motherboard for this CPU, you simply look for one that has the socket AM2 built-in. The same goes for Intel processors – just get a motherboard that has the correct socket. There are several socket types currently in use by both AMD and Intel, so be sure to check compatibility with the motherboard before you buy either the motherboard or the CPU or you can buy a motherboard/processor combo such as this one.

You want to be sure that you choose the correct features for your desired system based on anticipated use. For instance, if you are building a moderate to low performance system for general computer work, look for a motherboard with on-board graphics. This will save you some money and time over buying and installing a separate graphics card. If you are building a high-end gaming system, stay away from any motherboard that has on-board graphics. Instead, look for a motherboard that has one or two PCI Express slots for high-end graphics cards. You can also still occasionally find motherboards that use AGP over PCI-E. There are very few high-performance AGP graphics cards left on the market; gamers should go for PCI-E motherboards.

Gamers should also consider whether to run dual graphics cards with either nVidia SLI or ATi Crossfire setups. To be able to run either dual card method, you will need an appropriate motherboard with the correct chipset. If a motherboard is SLI or Crossfire capable, it will be listed. If you think at some future date you might want to use dual graphics cards, buy the motherboard now that supports your preferred vendor. That way, you can run either SLI and Crossfire graphic boards in a single card configuration and have an upgrade path for the future without having to buy a new motherboard.

If you intend to run multiple hard drives in a RAID array, you will also want to be sure that the motherboard you choose supports that function. However, if you find the perfect motherboard that lacks RAID functionality, you can buy good, inexpensive add-in RAID cards. That said, most current motherboards offer RAID functionality of some sort. For more information on RAID, check out this Tech Tip on RAID.

How to Build a Computer

June 7th, 2008

Note: This is the first installment in an ongoing series that will detail how to build a computer starting with selecting the components and covering everything in between up to installing the operating system (OS) and tweaking the BIOS settings.

Building your own personal computer (PC) can seem overwhelming at first. There are so many components that go into building a PC that just learning what you need to buy can be very confusing. As a result, many first-time builders sometimes overlook buying some parts. This Tech Tip will cover how to select your components, and how to ensure that your components are compatible and will work together. We will start by making a list of the basic components you need for an average gaming or general use PC; you can then refer back to this basic list throughout the series. With this Tech Tip, we will be covering the basics of choosing the items in bold below. Optional components are marked with an asterisk *:

• Chassis/case
• Power supply
• CD drives
• DVD drives
• Floppy Drive*
• Hard Drive(s)
• RAM (random access memory)
• Motherboard
• CPU (central processing unit)
• CPU heat sink/fan
• Thermal paste
• Hard drive cable
• Floppy drive cable*
• CD/DVD drive cable
• Video card (graphics card)*
(optional if your motherboard has onboard graphics)
• Sound card* (optional if your motherboard has onboard sound)
• Monitor (display)
• Input – Keyboard/Mouse
• Speakers*
• Operating system software

 

Choosing Your Computer Case or Chassis

Choosing your computer case seems pretty straight forward, and it is. There are a few different form factors (the physical size and shape of a device) around that you need to be aware of when case shopping. The first is the newer BTX (Balanced Technology Extended) format cases. While they are not as common, it is important to point out that almost all motherboards are ATX and they will not fit inside a BTX case.

The same goes for the small form factor cases that are designed to sit on a desktop. A simple rule of thumb is if the case is smaller that your motherboard, don’t buy it! The vast majority of cases you will find are ATX compatible. ATX has a few different variants basically having to do with the size of the motherboard.

Most all computer case retail boxes will list the type of motherboards it is compatible with right on the computer case packaging. If you are shopping and buying online, the website will certainly list the motherboard compatibility. Be sure the case matches up with your chosen motherboard form factor and you will be fine.

Choosing Your Power Supply

Power supply units (PSU) are one of the main components of your computer that many people put little thought into. It would be a wise move to not simply buy the cheapest PSU you can find. A bad PSU with unstable and fluctuating power output can cause all sorts of problems with your computer, such as damaged components due to a power surge, to crashes and reboots due to power levels falling too low that can wreak havoc on your patience. Because computer components put increasing demands on the case power supply, manufacturers are working to bring more powerful and efficient power supplies to the consumer that feature the new ATX12V 2.2/ EPS12V power supply standard, which you can find in power supplies such as the Antec NeoHE 500-Watt 24-pin Power Supply.

PSUs that are included with computer cases are notorious for being cheaply made. The PSU is one component where you certainly get what you pay for. While you don’t necessarily have to buy a $500.00 Pc Power & Cooling unit, a few extra dollars are wisely invested in a unit such as the ASYS 650-Watt Dual Fan ATX Power Supply. Geeks.com has a great selection of power supplies that are kind to your budget.

If you are a hardcore gamer looking to get into SLI (NVidia Scalable Link Interface) or Crossfire (ATI Technology) setups, you will want to buy a PSU that has two PCI-E power connectors and is SLI-ready if you’re going the SLI route. Ensure that it has enough Wattage to power two of your cards as well as the other components inside your system. For more information on power requirements of SLI, check out Nvidia’s SLI Zone. For more information on ATI Crossfire gaming, check out the ATI site.

Choosing Compact Disk/Digital Video Drives

Choosing a CD/DVD drive is a bit easier than choosing some of the other main components of your computer system. Short of the speed at which the drives can burn disks, most drives are similar. There are some DVD/CD drives out that use SATA ports like a newer hard drive rather than the IDE channels from your motherboard. You can choose either style, so long as your motherboard supports SATA. You can even go with an external drive if you so desire.

Most drives you find will be the standard IDE type. DVD burners are quickly becoming the drive of choice for computers. The newer dual-layer DVD drives will allow you to store more data per disk for your back-ups. The new Blu-Ray drives are also available, but at an exorbitant price typically over $1,000.00. Your typical DVD burner will run you well under $100. Keep an eye out for media compatibility, availability, and burn speed. Go with the fastest drive that fits in your budget and you will be happy. A DVD drive is recommended over a simple CD drive as more games and software are shipping on DVD media.


Floppy Drive

The floppy drive is the first of the optional components of your computer system. As DVD drives take over, many newer computers from the big manufacturers such as Dell and HP no longer ship with floppy drives. With files getting ever bigger, the floppy drive just doesn’t have enough capacity any more.

However, if you go without a floppy drive, keep in mind that you may find yourself at some point needing one to load a driver if you plan to use an older operating system like Windows 98 or 98 SE. Depending on your motherboard, you might need a floppy drive to easily install drivers for your SATA RAID or drives during the Windows install at the F6 prompt. We will cover this in more detail in a later installment of this series. If you are not sure you will need a floppy drive, just pick one up to be safe. Floppy drives are readily available for under $20.00, and Geeks.com still carries a fairly good selection of floppy drives.

Tips for Setting up a Home Wireless Network

June 7th, 2008

You can enjoy your music anywhere in your home or office without worrying about stringing (and tripping over) a knot of unsightly cablesIf you’ve used any sort of wireless device — telephone, laptop, PDA, or even a simple remote control — you know how convenient it can be. You’re not tethered to … well, to anything. And you’re free to move around while doing your work.

One area that’s ripe for wireless is a home or office sound system. Once a dream, it’s now relatively cheap and easy to set up such a system. Imagine being able to listen to your digital music without wires – you’ve probably got most of the components already. For a couple of hundred dollars or less, you can have a great wireless sound system.

Why Go Wireless?

Obviously, the main advantage to going wireless is to cut down on all of those pesky cables that have been the bane of audiophiles for decades. With wireless, you can place your speakers just about anywhere in your home without being limited to the length of wire that connects back to your audio system.

iTunes Rocks!If you’re like many people these days, you’ve probably got more music in a digital format like MP3 than you have on CD. Maybe you’ve ripped your CDs and/or downloaded music from the iTunes Store or other popular online music vendors. It’s easier to play these files directly from your computer instead of burning them on to a CD and having to fumble with those disks.

And let’s face it: no matter how good your PC speakers are, they’re no match for a decent set of stereo speakers. Piping your music to speakers, even those in another room, will only enhance your listening pleasure.

How It Works

A wireless sound system works sort of like radio. A transmitter is connected to a device — usually a computer — that stores and plays your music.  A receiver, plugged into a stereo or a set of speakers, picks up the signal from the transmitter. There are two ways in which signals can be sent from the transmitter — analog and digital.

Wireless signalsAnalog is similar to FM (Frequency Modulation) radio. The signal is strong and constant, but the frequency of the signal changes slightly based on the information being sent. If you still listen to terrestrial (as opposed to satellite) radio, you’re probably familiar with FM.  The quality of the signal is good and signal strength is decent, though it can be affected by barriers (like walls) in the way of the signal.

Digital, on the other hand, converts sounds to packets of electronic data. In the case of a wireless audio system, this data is sent over the air from a transmitter and the data is converted back to audio when it reaches the receiver. It’s really the same principle as a wireless Internet connection.

Wireless devices, like the ones described in this Tech Tip, operate over a specific range of frequencies — usually between 900 MHz to 2.4 GHz. This range of frequencies is used by most consumer wireless devices. That means a consistent level of signal quality, but it can also lead to interference from other devices. Luckily, the hardware used in setting up a wireless sound system enables you to select different frequencies to avoid or at least minimize interference.

Ways to Go Wireless

There are a couple of ways you can go wireless. If you’re an iPod user, you can turn your gadget into a music transmitter using the Wireless Music System for iPod by Logitech. This device clips to your iPod, turning it into a transmitter. You connect a small base station to your stereo or a set of powered speakers and you can use the iPod’s controls you can shuffle through songs or play your favorite play lists.

iriver AFT-100 Aerielle Enabled Mobile FM TransmitterYou can also get FM transmitters for certain makes of MP3 player. The transmitter — like iriver AFT-100 or the Belkin TuneCast II — plugs into your MP3 player and literally sends the music on the device to an FM receiver. That receiver could be a stereo or even a car radio. Essentially the transmitter turns your MP3 player into a short-range radio station. The range of these devices is limited – about ten to 30 feet. But over those distances, the signal is clear and has little or no interference.

Or, you can use a desktop computer (which is often called a media server) to store and broadcast your audio. You don’t need an up-to-date, lightning fast system with the latest version of your operating system (although that does help), either. An older computer running Windows XP and with a decent amount of memory and a fair sized hard drive is usually more than enough. I know at least two people who turned old eMachines desktops with 512 MB of memory and 80 GB hard disks into serviceable media servers. Using a software media player — like Windows Media Player, iTunes, RealPlayer, or WinAmp — you can create play lists or play all of your audio in bulk.

Logitech 980414-0403 Wireless Music System for PCA popular way to turn a PC into a sound system is the Logitech Wireless Music System. This device consists of two parts. The first is a small transmitter that you plug into a USB port on your computer. The second is a receiver that you connect to your stereo or a set of wireless speakers. Then, just fire up the media player on your computer and you’re ready to go.

The Linksys Wireless Media Center Extender not only does audio, but also video and Internet radio. The Extender looks like a DVD player with a small antenna at the back. You connect the Extender directly to your TV or stereo, and then install the software that interacts with the Extender on your PC. To use the Media Center Extender, your PC needs to be running Windows XP Media Center Edition and you’ll need to have a wireless network up and running.

AirPort wireless base stationApple has always had an edge over PCs in multimedia. If you have a recent Mac and a high-speed Internet connection, you can turn that Mac into a media server using an AirPort wireless base station. Just plug the AirPort base station into your stereo or your speakers, and let your Mac and the iTunes software do the rest. According to Apple, iTunes will automatically detect the base station and you can start playing your tunes immediately. However, at $99, the AirPort base station isn’t cheap, especially if you want to have your audio piped to multiple locations in your home.

Speakers

Getting good sound from a wireless system – or any audio system for that matter – is partly a matter of having a good audio source to work with and mainly a matter of having a decent set of speakers.
The great thing about a wireless sound system is that you don’t necessarily need to buy a new set of speakers. If you have a stereo, then you can use the speakers that you already have. If course, if you can afford it, a new set of speakers can’t hurt. The only problem with using stereo speakers is that you’re still restricted by the speaker cables. Your sound source can be anywhere, but the position of the speakers is limited to the length of cable connecting them to your stereo.

Wireless speakersWireless speakers, on the other hand, can free you of that limitation. You can (within reason) position the speakers anywhere you want in your house or even outside. Most are light enough that you can position them anywhere. With most wireless speakers, however, will need to be positioned near an electrical socket — this will limit where you can position your speakers. There are battery-powered wireless speakers, but most of them only hold a charge for about four hours. As the batteries run down, so will the quality of the audio that’s coming out of them.

You can expect to pay several hundred dollars for a decent set of wireless speakers. Models from Panasonic, for example, can cost anywhere from $200 to $1,700 dollars. Ones from Acoustic Research or JBL will cost quite a bit more. But, as with anything else, you get what you pay for. The quality of the sound will be better with a slightly higher-end set of speakers. That said, you should really only buy what you can afford and if you can afford it.
You can usually find some pretty good bargains on eBay or at online retailers –  Geeks.com, for example.

Of course, how you position your speakers in a room is almost as important as choosing the right speakers. How you position your speakers will depend on the size of the room and its layout. You can find some good advice on this topic here and here.

A Few Caveats

Remember that a wireless sound system has a limited range — from around 30 feet to 100 feet, maybe a bit more. This isn’t a problem in the average home, but if you want to play music outside then you might experience a drop in the quality of the sound.

Speaking of putting your speakers outside, while it may seem like a good idea to have your favorite bit of music playing during a BBQ or garden party, remember that many speakers aren’t meant for use outdoors. They could get damaged by the weather or careless guests. If you’re using battery-powered speakers, remember that the life of the batteries is limited — probably (hopefully!) shorter than the duration of your party.

On top of that, the sound that is sent to speakers might not arrive at the same moment, depending on how far the from your media center the speakers are set. In most cases, you might not notice any problems with the sound. Sometimes, though, you will definitely notice a small lag. If that happens, then you’ll have to experiment with the placement of your speakers.

As mentioned earlier, most wireless devices operate in a similar range of frequencies. Some wireless speakers work in the range of 900 MHz. That’s the frequency range used by many common household wireless devices like cordless telephones or baby monitors. You might encounter some interference from such devices in your home or even those used by a neighbor (depending on how close your nearest neighbor lives to you).